National Defence committee  Those stats are from independent research. I don't have an updated statistic on that. I would say that VAC has expanded. It has coloured a bit outside the lines in terms of expanding its mental health program to include more family members in terms of the kids, but there are limited sessions for those.

National Defence committee  Certainly, Mr. Chairman.

National Defence committee  Women are two to three times more likely to medically release than men veterans, 45% due to mental health and 43% due to musculoskeletal issues. Compared to women in the Canadian general population, they're more likely to have PTSD. They are at an 80% to 90% higher risk of suicide than men.