Procedure and House Affairs committee  I would say seven or possibly eight. You'll have to understand that there are intermingling elements to things.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Madam Chair, that is correct. There are over a hundred. I do want to add some clarification to that, though. Foreign interference is a broad problem, which in our investigative efforts would be characterized as intellectual property theft as well, from the different academic institutions, etc. that are targeted.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  We are seeing it from several different foreign actors. I also want to be precise in that we believe much of it is tied to specific entities within foreign countries and governments. We look at that interference as entities, as well. We are not in a position to connect this to leadership of particular regimes around the world.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  It's fewer than 10.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  We're starting to get fairly precise, but I would say more than five.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  It's a tough question. When I look at what we have done, Madam Chair, within our efforts with the service, we undertook the operational improvement review that was meant to solve many of the challenges that we've had between our two organizations alone. When we're looking at these types of problems, hindsight always brings 100% clarity.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I'll go rapid-fire in respect of your time. Obviously, I've already covered that our very public visibility in the police stations was a key element of being seen to do something, of being seen to care and to be effective. I believe we achieved that initial objective. That isn't enough.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I was not aware of specific targeting in the manner in which MP Chong was targeted. I was certainly aware of that being a general threat to diaspora in Canada.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  It was intimidation of family members from afar.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I would just say that in order to speak authoritatively to this, we'd have to see the memo and come back to you and let you know whether or not we had seen it.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  We can undertake it. I will caution, though, that if that memo has not been transitioned to us, I'd be comparing with the public discourse on it, but we can work with our partners to come back.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Madam Chair, I completely understand the question, and I hope you will understand the complexity of the answer. The reality is that we do have distinct organizations with distinct mandates involved in the national security space to combat this threat. There is, at times, an appropriate withholding of specific information.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I'm aware of that type of threat's being present, but I was not aware of the specifics with respect to Michael Chong.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Madam Chair, information flow with our partners is one of the things that actually I'm quite proud of. We meet.... I don't know what the count would be, but it's at least dozens of times a week where we are at a director, a director general, an ADM or a DM level meeting with our partners to discuss the national security threats to Canada and to inform what we are doing to combat those threats.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Madam Chair, we have many individuals who have come forward to us, and I'll say specifically since we were seen as being publicly visible in responding to the threat of the police stations. Part of our plan behind that public visibility in uniforms and in police cars, particularly in provinces where the RCMP is not seen in uniform, was to help build some of that trust and confidence with the communities so they would feel comfortable coming forward, because, to be frank, they have not historically come forward to police to provide this information.