Government Operations committee  We reported a whole range of different activities. We never even got to that point of the ACAN, but that was one of the red flags we had. As Amir mentioned, we went to go get our fingerprints done, and we were asked for a requesting letter. Because we didn't have it, we called Fi

Government Operations committee  Our price was $60. GC Strategies wanted to make it $78, and he told us on the phone that Tony Utano had found a vehicle for the CBSA to sell it to the rest of the government.

Government Operations committee  That was one of the issues. We wanted to go to the CBSA and have a direct contract, and we actually had a vehicle through which the CBSA could have contracted from Botler directly at that time.

Government Operations committee  If I may add to that, the only reason that ghost contractors and contractors like the ones we were discussing today are able to operate as they do is that they have the support from factions within the government. If those did not exist, I do not believe that we would be seeing s

Government Operations committee  Yes, that's correct. Factions within the government are allowing this.

Government Operations committee  From what we understand, when you have contracts, you have both Dalian and Coradix. They're separate entities but they also operate in joint venture. From what we believe, the reason they operate in joint venture is so that with Dalian's alleged aboriginal ownership, they can go

Government Operations committee  All the work is actually conducted by Coradix. I believe Dalian is just there in name and on the letterhead. The actual interactions, the day-to-day work and the running of the business are through Coradix, as I believe the Globe has verified. They operate out of the same office.

Government Operations committee  They're on the letterhead.

Government Operations committee  We're also currently investigating that, but it was a third party solution called Mailtrack. They are a well-known service provider. Through Mailtrack we were able to see that at times, when Mr. Morv and I were together and neither of us was on our phones or laptops or on any oth

Government Operations committee  Yes and no. Essentially, when we were contacted, we were contacted for a Government of Canada project, and the pilot for the CBSA was a means to the final end, which was the enterprise rollout. It was always the goal of the CBSA to be the pathfinder that rolled out the solution f

Government Operations committee  It's difficult to see that people, who were openly committing acts of fraud on the government, would be rewarded, I would say.

Government Operations committee  Three weeks, I believe, is the timeline.

Government Operations committee  Mr. Firth literally told us that this is for more than just credit for Mr. MacDonald. Take what you will from that.

Government Operations committee  I can provide an answer to that. The app that became ArriveCAN was something that Firth would regularly speak to. When we were first interacting with him, starting in November 2019, he used it as an example. At the time, it was supposed to replace those immigration cards for bor

Government Operations committee  We don't even know that, actually.