Government Operations committee  Mr. Chair and honourable members, I appreciate all the work you do and the time we've had today. Thank you.

Government Operations committee  Thank you.

Government Operations committee  I will pass this off to Colin [Inaudible—Editor].

Government Operations committee  I have answered that. I am an executive on the board of directors for Dalian, and I maintain all of the governance as it relates to the PSAB and make sure that the company is absolutely in line, in step, with everything that relates to procurement and government contracting within the federal government.

Government Operations committee  We're providing a service that [Inaudible—Editor].

Government Operations committee  There's a lot that we do, actually. As a matter of fact, we spend hours and days and weeks replying to RFPs, creating bid responses, which cost thousands and thousands of dollars, where some we win and some we lose. There is so much background activity that goes on in the contracting world.

Government Operations committee  There's a lot of background activity that happens and [Inaudible—Editor].

Government Operations committee  Yes, that's correct.

Government Operations committee  What is it that I do? I manage—

Government Operations committee  Not at all. Colin can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that we already went through an audit process—

Government Operations committee  Chair and honourable member, you ask about what I do, but I have to go back to the beginning. The amount of effort and—

Government Operations committee  I don't know if it's an exchange for millions of dollars because there is so much overhead to running a bricks-and-mortar business here in Ottawa. There are expenses relating to indigenous employees that I have and indigenous consultants that we pay—

Government Operations committee  I do, and they're indigenous.

Government Operations committee  You're asking two things there. What I do as an executive on the board of directors for Dalian is look at governance and the way the company is run on a daily basis. I've earned that by building the business over 23 years. As for what we do—

Government Operations committee  Our value-add really is in the area of project management and contract management as it relates to federal government contracting in the—