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Health committee  I would rather you didn't distribute it.

December 6th, 2023Committee meeting

Dr. Steven Narod

Health committee  I'll give it to you, but I would rather not give it to the committee. Is that appropriate?

December 6th, 2023Committee meeting

Dr. Steven Narod

Health committee  I'd like to give it to Dr. Hanley and to you, too. I would rather the rest of the committee not see it. Is that appropriate?

December 6th, 2023Committee meeting

Dr. Steven Narod

Health committee  Yes, I am.

December 6th, 2023Committee meeting

Dr. Steven Narod

Health committee  There are a lot of studies like that study. Let me put it this way. In the Canadian national breast cancer screening study, the women who had their cancers detected in the mammogram arm that were smaller and less likely to be node-positive had better survival, but the number of deaths was the same.

December 6th, 2023Committee meeting

Dr. Steven Narod

Health committee  Go ahead.

December 6th, 2023Committee meeting

Dr. Steven Narod

Health committee  The future of screening...? That's a good question. I have a paper coming out in the early 2024 in JAMA Oncology that evaluates screening. I think that will change everything. It's embargoed, so I can't tell you more.

December 6th, 2023Committee meeting

Dr. Steven Narod

Health committee  We hear about experts a lot here today. I would never claim to be an expert. I think it's important that other people give you that designation. It's not something we self-proclaim. I may say that I won the McLaughlin Medal this year from the Royal Society for the top medical scientist in Canada.

December 6th, 2023Committee meeting

Dr. Steven Narod

Health committee  They were recruited in 1983.

December 6th, 2023Committee meeting

Dr. Steven Narod

Health committee  As far as I recall, we did not use race or ethnicity, as a covariant.

December 6th, 2023Committee meeting

Dr. Steven Narod

Health committee  They were 98% white.

December 6th, 2023Committee meeting

Dr. Steven Narod

Health committee  Probably.

December 6th, 2023Committee meeting

Dr. Steven Narod

Health committee  This is my study. The data is on my computer. Dr. Gordon and others made a claim of scientific misconduct at the University of Toronto last year, at which point I prepared a report on exactly what she's claiming. That report was submitted to the dean of public health sciences and was submitted to an international committee that reviewed the study and came out entirely on my side.

December 6th, 2023Committee meeting

Dr. Steven Narod

Health committee  Thank you. In the Swedish trial, they invited women to come for a mammogram, and half the women were not invited. How do you know that they didn't have a palpable cancer? The ones who came they could have excluded with a palpable cancer, but the controls were never examined.

December 6th, 2023Committee meeting

Dr. Steven Narod

Health committee  Yes, I'd love that.

December 6th, 2023Committee meeting

Dr. Steven Narod