Industry committee  I'd like to add that, fortunately, China is actually ahead of us in terms of AI regulation. I think part of it is that.... I mean, the western democracies are afraid of losing control of AI systems. The Chinese and the Russians are terrified because they depend on control, so if their system is not doing what they want it to do, if it's spitting out non-party line [Technical difficulty—Editor], they're more concerned about that than we are.

Industry committee  Specifically with regard to the definition of “high-impact”, the minister's amendments are a very significant step in the right direction. Including the general-purpose systems is very good. For the particular schedule, our main recommendation is to include not just use cases but also capacities.

Industry committee  I think there's not necessarily a contradiction between our positions. The purpose of this bill is to make sure that the good types of AI, the beneficial ones, the ones that are harmless, are developed and that Canada's leading in that. On the timeline piece, look, nobody can predict the future, but the reason so many people think it's short term is that, if you look at the trends, whether it be the amount of compute going into the algorithms, the amount of data going into the algorithms, the amount of efficiency algorithms or the amount of money going into this space, all these trends are exponential.

Industry committee  Committee members, thank you for giving me the honour of being here. AI Governance and Safety Canada is a cross‑partisan not‑for‑profit organization and a community of people across Canada. We started with the following question. What can we do in Canada, and from Canada, to ensure positive artificial intelligence outcomes?