Agriculture committee  I think typically people have talked about a 20% growth rate on premiums available to organics. That probably differs by product and so on. One of the strengths of the round table and what we hope to come out of it is the kind of exercise we've seen in the other round tables. They have looked at the market opportunities, the challenges and the opportunities, and have developed industry strategies, which we would then support, to take advantage of those.

Agriculture committee  Thank you for the question. We view the organics sector as an important part of the sector in terms of the market development possibilities it offers. We recently set up a national organics value chain round table. It recently had its second meeting, and it's setting out a work plan for the industry in terms of the issues the industry needs to address.

Agriculture committee  I think that is a fair comment. In addition, there have been a couple of programs to assist both the ruminant sector other than the beef sector and the non-bovine sector, both in terms of sustaining the genetic quality of the herd and in market development. We can provide details of those as well, and in the past also, programs that have applied to the dairy sector as well as the beef sector in the suite of programs.