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Public Accounts committee  Thank you very much for allowing me to finish my comment. I was simply trying to respond to Mr. Brock's question regarding the processes around how we review whether or not we can engage in work with a particular organization, contractor or subcontractor. I was just trying to finish the statement that we do have processes whereby we check clients and we check the nature of the engagement we're being asked to undertake.

May 30th, 2024Committee meeting

Lydia Lee

Public Accounts committee  As I said before, we are very proud of the work we fulfilled for the government, for both the Public Health Agency and CBSA, during an incredibly stressful time during the pandemic. We do believe the work we did fulfilled roles the government itself could not play within the required time.

May 30th, 2024Committee meeting

Lydia Lee

Public Accounts committee  I have the same answer. I'm not aware.

May 30th, 2024Committee meeting

Lydia Lee

Public Accounts committee  Thank you for the member's question. I'll comment on the Public Health Agency related work. All of the staff who worked on the ArriveCAN program did, yes. For the Public Health Agency, we had all the proper security clearance. We required reliability for those contracts.

May 30th, 2024Committee meeting

Lydia Lee

Public Accounts committee  For the Public Health Agency work, we were required to have reliability security clearance. All of our resources had that—reliability or higher. I myself have secret security clearance.

May 30th, 2024Committee meeting

Lydia Lee

Public Accounts committee  Thank you for the member's question. I'll just clarify that for work related to the Public Health Agency, we did not develop any algorithms.

May 30th, 2024Committee meeting

Lydia Lee

Public Accounts committee  KPMG was contacted, I think, a week in advance of the publication of the Auditor General's report to confirm some of the facts that were documented in the report. As I said before and will say again, we read the report, understood all the findings and co-operated fully.

May 30th, 2024Committee meeting

Lydia Lee

Public Accounts committee  Thank you for the member's question. We learned only one thing, which was that she documented that there was no documentation. I can't remember the exact wording, but it was to the effect that there was no documentation or rationale provided by the Public Health Agency for the direct award to KPMG after the original CEPS contracting.

May 30th, 2024Committee meeting

Lydia Lee

Public Accounts committee  We were not. That's correct.

May 30th, 2024Committee meeting

Lydia Lee

Public Accounts committee  Thank you for the member's question. Just to be clear, for the ArriveCAN work we've done, we have not been contacted by the RCMP. Of course, if we were, we would comply and we would co-operate fully. However, we have not been contacted.

May 30th, 2024Committee meeting

Lydia Lee

Public Accounts committee  That's right. That's correct.

May 30th, 2024Committee meeting

Lydia Lee

Public Accounts committee  If I may, Mr. Chair, I want to comment on the testimony from Hartaj the last time we were here. He was referring to the client engagement and the engagement acceptance process that we go through for every single project that we do, which is the—

May 30th, 2024Committee meeting

Lydia Lee

Public Accounts committee  Thank you for the member's question. I just want to add, on behalf of KPMG, that we're really proud of the work we did to support both the Public Health Agency of Canada and CBSA during the COVID-19 pandemic. At the time, circumstances for both agencies were incredibly stressful.

May 30th, 2024Committee meeting

Lydia Lee

Public Accounts committee  As I said before, the last time we were here, the work we did on the Public Health Agency's ArriveCAN program was to help the Public Health Agency understand policy directions they might need to take, change or evolve with the COVID-19 pandemic. We reached out to our global colleagues to find out about global leading practices the Five Eyes or other jurisdictions were doing to help inform those policy directions.

May 30th, 2024Committee meeting

Lydia Lee

Public Accounts committee  If I can clarify, the Auditor General did contact KPMG to confirm the information that was about to go out in the report ahead of time, just before the report was released, to confirm the details, and we complied with her request.

May 30th, 2024Committee meeting

Lydia Lee