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Public Safety committee  I'll be happy to answer that question. Yes, they are. They have alphanumerical numbers, but there are different types of seals. There are wire seals, chain seals, high-security seals, plastic seals and paper seals. They all have unique numbers. That might be a fault in the system that probably needs to be reassessed, which is to standardize seals or something, because the only thing we have on the manifesto—the legal paper—is the number.

April 18th, 2024Committee meeting

Félixpier Bergeron

Public Safety committee  That's something the CBSA must answer. I am not familiar with that aspect. As I said earlier, the accountability part is not very strong in the acts or regulations right now. That's something that needs to be better answered by the CBSA.

April 18th, 2024Committee meeting

Félixpier Bergeron

Public Safety committee  Like I said earlier, the act or regulations have to be revised. Right now, there's no accountability for that. The act or regulations require seals to be put on and to signify that on the paperwork, but that's the end of it.

April 18th, 2024Committee meeting

Félixpier Bergeron

Public Safety committee  I'm not the best person to answer that question. Unfortunately, it has to be referred to CBSA or the other agencies that govern those acts. The manifest and all the information for export is governed by CBSA.

April 18th, 2024Committee meeting

Félixpier Bergeron

Public Safety committee  I don't have access to that information. I don't know how the containers got into the terminal.

April 18th, 2024Committee meeting

Félixpier Bergeron

Public Safety committee  I could go back and find out if you want me to. It's a process of investigation that belongs to CBSA and the police of jurisdiction who did the investigation. I could go back and tell you which container came in on which truck with which driver or on which train and in which batch.

April 18th, 2024Committee meeting

Félixpier Bergeron

Public Safety committee  As far as I know, they don't have liability because the container is sealed.

April 18th, 2024Committee meeting

Félixpier Bergeron

Public Safety committee  Off the bat, I couldn't answer that question, but I would go back to my earlier statement that we need to make accountable the person who put the seal on the container. If the seal is not broken all the way up to the port, there's nothing that happened with what's inside of it. The important thing is, when the seal is put on, who signed for it.

April 18th, 2024Committee meeting

Félixpier Bergeron

Public Safety committee  We've seen that technology being used especially in the Middle East and in that part of the world. Other countries do use that technology. We do use it in Montreal, and the CBSA uses it. The human aspect has to be removed from the area where the scanning is being done. That increases the time when everything is stopped.

April 18th, 2024Committee meeting

Félixpier Bergeron

Public Safety committee  If they do exist, we are open to them, but I need to assess them. A better option would be AI. That is one thing that could increase the success rates of detections.

April 18th, 2024Committee meeting

Félixpier Bergeron

Public Safety committee  We do not want to obtain the powers or authorizations of other authorities, but we want to be part of the process. We want to help in the best way we can. There are some improvements that can be made to the process of obtaining and disclosing information so that we can pass it on.

April 18th, 2024Committee meeting

Félixpier Bergeron

Public Safety committee  That might be part of the problem. They do it for specific positions or specific access to certain places, but not for the general worker. Basically, it's reserved for people having authority over other people or people having authority with regard to the management of the inventory, like the checkers, the infamous checkers that we always talk about at the port of Montreal that were for a long time affiliated with the West End Gang—but that's old history.

April 18th, 2024Committee meeting

Félixpier Bergeron

Public Safety committee  No, the security clearance program is driven by Transport Canada.

April 18th, 2024Committee meeting

Félixpier Bergeron

Public Safety committee  Transport Canada does them.

April 18th, 2024Committee meeting

Félixpier Bergeron

Public Safety committee  They don't do 25,000 people.

April 18th, 2024Committee meeting

Félixpier Bergeron