Industry committee  Mr. Perkins, I left in August 2019.

Industry committee  Absolutely. Ms. Verschuren was appointed through a process that involved—

Industry committee  Mr. Chair, I do not recall any conversation around—

Industry committee  Good evening, Mr. Chair and members of the committee. My name is Gianluca Cairo, and I want to thank you for the opportunity to appear before you in relation to your study on Sustainable Development Technology Canada. My role, as it relates to your study into SDTC, was as chief of staff to the Minister of Innovation, Science and Economic Development from the summer of 2017 to the summer of 2019.