Human Resources committee  Absolutely, it's public land. I think that, if communities want to get involved in building social and community housing to meet their members' needs, most of that land should be reserved for those types of housing. That would go a long way toward reaching the 20% target for social and community housing.

Human Resources committee  In Quebec, I know that there was about $2 billion for low-income housing. I think it's a critical need. Low-income housing meets specific needs. When costs aren't indexed to the cost of living, you end up with a shortfall. It's like Ms. Gagne's project, which took seven years. Housing units can be lost because of the cost of living.

Human Resources committee  Yes, we absolutely have to work on that and think about other ways to make those investments. We held a major event in Quebec City just last week to discuss ways to reach the 20% target, which also means keeping our housing stock intact. Ad hoc investments are fine, but good coordination between the various levels of government would be even better.

Human Resources committee  Affordable housing depends on the income of the person paying the rent. It's as simple as that. The word can mean a lot of things, but it boils down to what a person is able to pay. Roughly speaking, it would be about 30% of their gross income.

Human Resources committee  A long-term vision for community social housing development is a must if it is to reach the acceptable percentage of 20%, but we need to take rapid action on homelessness if we want to solve the problem. I don't think $500 million is enough, especially considering that we should actually be investing $3.5 billion in the short term.

Human Resources committee  In Quebec, when we fund a project, we say that we're building it to last 100 years. Unfortunately, that isn't necessarily what happens, and there are lots of other factors that result in the loss of so-called affordable housing units. One active solution that I think sounds great was implemented in British Columbia.

Human Resources committee  Thank you, Ms. Chabot. I greatly appreciate it. I was talking about a national policy. A valuable strategy was implemented, offering a wide range of tools and programs. However, to be truly effective, we also need a national housing policy. That's what we're telling the Quebec government.

Human Resources committee  Thank you.

Human Resources committee  Yes. I'm sorry. Regardless of the number of housing units needed to achieve this balance, we believe that the key decision‑makers at different levels of government should focus specifically on social and community housing. Like the for‑profit rental market, non‑speculative housing must also help achieve this ideal balance.

Human Resources committee  Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. Thank you very much, committee members. The Réseau québécois des organismes sans but lucratif d'habitation brings together, supports and represents community organizations that provide housing for low‑income or modest‑income households or for people with special housing needs.