Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  Yes. Did you want to answer?

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  Yes, if you could put the money there, I'll guarantee that it will work, and I'll guarantee that will drop the crime stats in any community.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  I want to add that in the Yukon, out of 14 first nations, we are working on our fifth community where there is the community safety guardian program.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  That's a really good question. My background being in drug enforcement, undercover police officer, etc., we work with the Safer Communities and Neighbourhoods Unit, SCAN. SCAN is a territorial legislated enforcement that comes together. We work with them on bootlegging and drug trafficking issues.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  I'm here to be honest, and they're failing. I say that because I'm a former police officer, and I used to work in an FNIPP position, and it never worked then. I'm going back to 1985. You can keep funding the police and the RCMP on the road we're going, and we'll be back here in another 100 years.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  Absolutely, and one of the things I said is that there is a place for the police in the enforcement role. We absolutely need that, but I am also saying that there is a place for indigenous communities. Enforcement was to enforce. It was to take away the children. That's what happened, and we haven't changed that.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  It's amazing. They're two matriarchal sisters who are over the age of 65. They applied for the program as community safety officers. What we've brought back to that community is we've revitalized their traditional justice and their traditional ways based on their culture, their values and their clan system so the youth and the people are accountable to somebody.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  One of the things I've done is I've worked on my master's in community economic development. A lot of the background I have is in economic development as well, after leaving the police force. I came up with a diagram called the “indigenous economic gap.” Here we are, where we have trauma and crisis in our indigenous community based on colonization and so on, and on the other side we have the economy, where some communities are wealthy.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  I'd ask my colleague to answer that, please.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  Thank you, MP Hanley. Again, I'm going to ask my colleague to answer that.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  I think—

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  Funding mechanisms are challenging. The first nations governments that we work with fund the community safety officer programs up front. Part of it is that it becomes an ownership; they own the program. The federal or territorial government doesn't, and the success of the program is that they own the program up front.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  Thank you, MP Hanley. I've worked inside the RCMP and alongside nations for over four decades. That's 40 years. I've aged myself. I know what policing can and can't do. Enforcement alone will never build safety in our indigenous communities. Safety is built through relationships, prevention and accountability to one another.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  Yes. When we started doing the community safety work in Kwanlin Dün First Nation, one of the things we did look at was the data, which is the number of police calls over the past year. In 2015, the former chief, Doris Bill, had asked us how many calls to police services we had to that community.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  I'm going to ask my colleague to answer that question. She has done the analysis side of it.