Transport committee  Yes. It would be to amend section 18 to provide the authority to make rules on scheduling. That would be the way to do it.

Transport committee  No.

Transport committee  They're the same thing, yes.

Transport committee  No, it's the fact that we don't have any authority to do scheduling rules--not that we're against your amendment; the authority doesn't exist at this time to create scheduling rules.

Transport committee  Yes, or anywhere, actually, in the act. I think the power to make rules are under section 18 of the current act, and there's nothing for scheduling.

Transport committee  When we get a complaint, the first thing we do is investigate. Obviously what we would hope to find was that they had tried to resolve it first. If we contact the company and they say, “You know, we never heard about this complaint--”

Transport committee  We honestly don't know. Right now when someone reports something to the TSB, most of the time they send us a letter and ask us to investigate.

Transport committee  I'm sorry, I was reading this. Can you repeat the question, Mr. Julian?

Transport committee  The definition...I think it was defined in orders, or later on in the amendments, we would talk about fatigue science in the context of scheduling rules. The issue is that there are no rules about scheduling, as we speak, and we have no authority currently in the act to force the

Transport committee  Then you're falling under what we call the “work rest” rules that we have in place that give the maximum time that someone can be on duty and the time being provided for rest. This one talks about scheduling, about having better knowledge as to when they may be called again. My

Transport committee  No, we don't believe it's going to undermine; the only thing we want to make sure is that there is an attempt to resolve it at the company level first, and that if it can't be resolved then they come to us. So if there is an opportunity first to fix it at the company level, and t

Transport committee  No, not at all. There is one thing in the safety management system that we are trying to push a bit. To the extent that it is possible, we want the companies to try and sort out their differences, and make an effort to improve employee communication and culture. If that doesn't w

Transport committee  Yes. We don't really have a problem with that. The TSB already has a program called SECURITAS. I would suggest that they perhaps report to Transport Canada in order to avoid having two groups running after the same files.

Transport committee  If it were possible to limit it to ourselves, it would be easy, given that there is already a program in place.

Transport committee  It's because they already have a program in place, a well known program that is not in the legislation. If we want to have it in ours, I think we should make sure that everything that is reported under the Railway Safety Act goes to one agency only, so that we don't have complain