Public Accounts committee  That's correct.

Public Accounts committee  Yes. It was because part of the work we were doing with the NCPC was looking at the email and computer of Mr. Brazeau, and we identified this relationship to Mr. Smith.

Public Accounts committee  They were providing an administrative function, but I think you could look at some of the examples in the report and see instances in which you had a resource working for a client department directly, and then all of a sudden they were working through CAC and Abotech to do the sa

Public Accounts committee  Well, I think we heard Mr. Brazeau answer earlier as to whether or not he scored that evaluation, but that's what the evaluation reflected, yes.

Public Accounts committee  Absolutely.

Public Accounts committee  Abotech was in the skills registration system, registered as a company, but when you do the searches for some of these contracts that occurred within the NCPC, the keywords they used to search wouldn't reveal the resources they wanted.

Public Accounts committee  It dealt with 45 contracts.

Public Accounts committee  That's correct.

Public Accounts committee  We definitely had problems with the method by which those contracts were awarded.

Public Accounts committee  That's my understanding from the descriptions in the contracts, yes.

Public Accounts committee  He retained Consulting and Audit Canada to conduct the contracting process to get resources.

Public Accounts committee  I think the charges varied a bit, but 15% is the rough range, yes.

Public Accounts committee  There were two contracts awarded, yes, to Abotech Inc.

Public Accounts committee  Yes.

Public Accounts committee  We weren't privy to the deliverables that were being done in the NCPC. We didn't have access to them. My understanding is that Mr. Onischuk's role was to assist with the procurement of the contractors who were working in the NCPC, in terms of writing statements of work and descri