Industry committee  From our perspective, I would say it's an essential tool for us to have as we look at abuse of dominance in general.

Industry committee  —and that we be allowed to impose pecuniary sanctions when it is deregulated. From what we can see, Bill C-41 is supposed to follow deregulation. So it is indeed in keeping with the report. There were no sanctions for the CRTC, but this was limited to the regulatory period. So

Industry committee  They go together. There are three parts, if I can put it that way. There's the directive, there's Bill C-41 and there's the change.

Industry committee  It's not up to me to determine what procedure should be followed. Bill C-41 is perfectly in keeping with the recommendations of the review panel, because it recommended— In fact, they referred to Bill C-19, presuming that this would become law. They felt that the CRTC should hav

Industry committee  I'm not at all familiar with the market conditions. I don't know which cable company is present—

Industry committee  Do you want me to answer? We would have to determine who's the telephone company and who's the cable company, and make a comparison. And if the large cable companies that are established, such as StarChoice, also have advantages that allow for competition in the marketplace. As

Industry committee  The general policy direction is based on greater reliance on market forces, and that would absolutely line up with our statutory mandate.

Industry committee  Well, we certainly hope so, and I hope I'll have the chance to come back and speak to you again when Bill C-41 comes before this committee. What I can say for now is that we've clearly been on the record supporting the introduction of administrative penalties relating to abuse

Industry committee  Well, it's certainly one of the reasons we believed it would be good to have a greater deterrence through the potential implication of AMPs on anti-competitive behaviour. We believe the tools we have are quite appropriate for abuse of dominance, because you have to remember this

Industry committee  Well, in many cases you will have additional obligations that remain on the company being deregulated. Our advice has always been that one should very carefully look at the objective the regulator is pursuing, have the least interventionist restriction in the marketplace, and mov

Industry committee  Do you mean with respect to a type of complaint of abuse of dominance?

Industry committee  This would assume that there is forbearance and that these companies are now subject to our jurisdiction and not the CRTC. It would again depend on the resources we have at that particular time, but Richard has made a priority of getting ready and prepared for the telecommunicati

Industry committee  I think you're straying a bit from our area of expertise. I suspect the telecommunications experts might be better placed to talk to you about that. Our view is that our test has six elements that relate more to rivalry, cost structures, and what not. We didn't see that it was

Industry committee  It's a reasonable observation that they've made. We've actually given it a fair amount of thought. I would say our thinking evolved over time, if you look at our various public positionings on this. We were relatively cautious. We hadn't decided or determined our view on this y

Industry committee  No, I wouldn't. We've just introduced an incredibly interesting triage tool that is quite proactive, and we're doing a systematic analysis. We get over 15,000 complaints, I think, from consumers, something like that. We decided that we probably don't want to be held captive to co