Environment committee  I would simply say that the targets we're talking about are global targets. We don't deal with climate change successfully unless we meet global targets.

Environment committee  Well, that's absolutely correct. All that we've questioned is the continual focus on targets without actually putting the measures in place and without understanding what's going to--

Environment committee  Thank you, Mr. Bigras. It's a complex question, as you know. Obviously, there are sectors of our economy that, for a variety of reasons, are actually below their levels of emissions in 1990, quite contrary to what Mr. McGuinty suggested earlier when saying businesses have been

Environment committee  Thank you, Mr. McGuinty. We haven't done the analysis. I haven't seen that specific analysis. The one thing I would say is that it is the national target. As Mr. d'Aquino has indicated, what we've seen so far is a lot of focus on the large industrial emitters that produce less t

Environment committee  Both Ms. Hughes-Anthony and I clearly said we have a responsibility--

Environment committee  No, that's not accurate.

Environment committee  Clearly, none of us in business feel good about a target that's not achievable, and then an international obligation. But we have to go back to what we are going to do in the future. What are we going to actually do to start reducing our emissions, and what does that mean about o

Environment committee  I can't give you a whole lot of insight into what's happened in these countries. From some of the reading I've done and from looking at some of the numbers, though, my sense is that they are having many of the same challenges we have in the areas of consumer use of energy and in

Environment committee  Yes, I believe so. I haven't had detailed discussions with government officials about it, but as Louise Comeau was pointing out, there are a number of other obligations under the protocol and the convention that Canada is obliged to undertake, and as far as I'm aware, we are doin

Environment committee  The targets clearly are the most important thing; there's no question about that. The issue is that Canada is being more honest than most other countries about the difficulty it is going to have in meeting that target. It relates, as I said earlier, to the fact that we've taken o

Environment committee  I'm not an international lawyer, but yes, that's my understanding. Matthew Bramley has indicated what the penalty is if we don't meet the target. That's the only target that's provided for in the protocol.

Environment committee  The penalty is a 30% make-up in the second commitment period. We have yet to negotiate that second commitment period. We have yet to determine what our target is and what other countries' targets are, and indeed how many other countries will not meet their target and therefore po

Environment committee  I'm not sure—

Environment committee  Industry has been consulted with respect to the convention and the protocol. With respect to what precise targets industry would have to meet, those discussions started after the protocol was negotiated. We didn't have much input into what the target was. We were told what it wou

Environment committee  There was a series of tables first, through 1999, 2000, and into 2001.