Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  No, we're not sure of the amount of money it's going to take. We are sure that the cost, however, will be much greater if we don't invest that money.

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  We're at roughly 800 megatonnes. The figure was 758 megatonnes for 2004.

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  I'm not sure of that figure, no, but I'll take your word for it.

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  First of all, we need to level the playing field. The oil sands have received undue support from the government, and I don't think the oil sector needs any more subsidies. I don't they need a 100% write-off for their capital costs in the oil sands—

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  I understand, but the physical reality of the technology is that it produces five times as many greenhouse gases as conventional oil. We shouldn't be incenting that kind of activity that has such an adverse environmental impact.

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  Well, not shut down. We don't expect those plants would be shut down tomorrow, but we think they should be phased out as they reach the end of their lifetime, rather than reinvesting. We certainly think we should not be investing in new nuclear plants.

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  That is a quote, and an accurate one.

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  No, about 40% to 50% of the electricity consumed is nuclear.

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  No, we haven't, but that figure was simply meant to put some perspective on what meeting our Kyoto target might mean. The reality is, if we have a business-as-usual scenario projection of what demand will be, it will be even higher. But it's meant to indicate that this is doable.

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  Yes, I do think it's achievable. Quebec is obviously in a lucky position with hydraulic capacity. But still, this is a plan that has been put forward, it's a rational plan, and I think we'll see the results. It will come down to 80 megatonnes for Quebec, which is Quebec's share o

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  Well, in fact a number of countries are well on their way to meeting their targets. So we've already seen Germany has reduced its emissions since 1990 by over 17%. The United Kingdom has reduced its emissions by over 14%. I think the European Union countries generally are leading

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  Well, Canada is certainly among the worst of the culprits, but there are a number of them.

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  The ones that are worse than Canada are Turkey, Spain, and Portugal.

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  For cutting 50%, or more than 50%. I think we need a fixed, absolute cap on emissions for industry that extends a Kyoto-level target.

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  I know it isn't easy when it comes to the negotiations, when it goes sector by sector, and when you have to deal with those industries and all of their particular problems, hassles, benefits, and costs, but it's the kind of negotiating that needs to be done. I think governments