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Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, perhaps I could just add some clarity. We're talking about the insurance funds, not the pension plan. And in 1995 the RCMP, like most federal government departments, was faced with program review targets with regard to significant reference level changes and it was looking at alternative service delivery for a number of its services.

May 29th, 2007Committee meeting

D/Commr Kevin Mole

Public Accounts committee  That's basically the context. The discussion took place at the—

May 29th, 2007Committee meeting

D/Commr Kevin Mole

Public Accounts committee  No, the funding for the administration was shared at that time with the plan and the RCMP's operating budget.

May 29th, 2007Committee meeting

D/Commr Kevin Mole

Public Accounts committee  I can't speak to that issue. I wasn't involved in that process at that time.

May 29th, 2007Committee meeting

D/Commr Kevin Mole

Public Accounts committee  If I may, certainly during the 1990s, during program review, as I understand it, the intention was that the administration costs for a portion of the National Compensation Policy Centre in headquarters would be paid for from the funds. And the eventual expectation would be that the administration responsibility would transfer over to employees from Great-West Life.

May 29th, 2007Committee meeting

D/Commr Kevin Mole

Public Accounts committee  It's in the process of being fixed. We're working closely with Treasury Board with regard to the authority for the plan.

May 29th, 2007Committee meeting

D/Commr Kevin Mole

Public Accounts committee  In 2005, I believe.

May 29th, 2007Committee meeting

D/Commr Kevin Mole

Public Accounts committee  Yes. If I may—?

May 29th, 2007Committee meeting

D/Commr Kevin Mole

Public Accounts committee  In 2005, the issue on the ownership of the plan, who had the delegated authority, became a significant problem for the organization, and at that point discussions with Treasury Board started with regard to who would have the delegated authority and who would have the authority to actually pay for the administration.

May 29th, 2007Committee meeting

D/Commr Kevin Mole

May 29th, 2007Committee meeting

D/Commr Kevin Mole

Public Accounts committee  We hope to go to the Treasury Board ministers as early as September with a submission with a number of options, including the delegation of authority for the plan to the RCMP and the administration costs to be identified and an option to recover the approval for the funding.

May 29th, 2007Committee meeting

D/Commr Kevin Mole

Public Accounts committee  No, Mr. Chair. I haven't seen any of the information presented today except for the deck last evening.

May 29th, 2007Committee meeting

D/Commr Kevin Mole

Public Accounts committee  I haven't been involved in the criminal investigation at all.

May 29th, 2007Committee meeting

D/Commr Kevin Mole

Public Accounts committee  Basically the information, as I understand it, came from the criminal investigative file. Although the file has a current status, I believe I've concluded it doesn't mean that it couldn't subsequently be opened with new information that comes to light. Again, these people certainly haven't been charged.

May 29th, 2007Committee meeting

D/Commr Kevin Mole

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chairman, certainly the implications for the RCMP in holding that information is to respect the Privacy Act and all the requirements of the Access to Information Act. So in releasing the information to the committee, we would be releasing our responsibility under the Privacy Act and the Access to Information Act.

May 29th, 2007Committee meeting

D/Commr Kevin Mole