Industry committee  Thanks very much. I just wanted to pick up on your comment about new models of looking at it. I can't talk on the education system, but in order for us to identify where we need to be looking in terms of the types of new skills, we obviously have to get a grounding somewhere. There's an area that we work in, technology road maps, that is very much cross-governmental, cross-agency, and very much industry centred.

Industry committee  I'll just add to that. I think the difficulty is that there are a number of different factors going on here. I look at it from the perspective of overall manufacturing competitiveness. What we're seeing is actually a transformation of the manufacturing sector. We've had these discussions with the CME, with whom we work very closely, in looking at the issues in follow-up to the CME's Manufacturing 20/20.

Industry committee  We're from Industry Canada, but I can promise to get back to you on further details on that. I'm more in the manufacturing sector, and that was the basis upon which I had been invited. So I'm afraid I can't give you further details.

Industry committee  It's obviously a very good question, but one that really the folks from International Trade Canada are better positioned to answer.

Industry committee  We may have. I can certainly talk to my colleague in the area of autos. I haven't seen it personally, but I can certainly look, and if we're able to share it, I'll be pleased to do so.