Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  Absolutely.

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  That's right, although I want to be careful with “verifiable”, because I have some issues with what we define as offsets, whether they're happening in Canada or elsewhere, but just in general.

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  Yes, although I don't understand the words “short-term policies”. To me, a policy in this context is going to be a policy that involves technological transformations, so it's inevitably a long-term policy and it starts today.

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  Yes, and those are on diagram 6 that I've given you. You can pick different years along there, but please recognize that there's great uncertainty about those values. They're a prediction about how the economy would respond to certain policies.

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  Absolutely. I want to distinguish between the need for Canada to be involved in international processes to address climate change—which I agree with completely, and always have—and mistakes or whatever that Canada may have made in setting its target or in trying to meet its targe

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  Yes. I don't see where you couldn't achieve your objective with intensity-based targets. You asked about a particular example, and I'm not sure one comes readily to mind, but I've been doing a lot of analyses of these over the past ten years. You could design--and I think we go

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  Yes, that was a correct quote. On the one hand I'm referring to domestic reductions. My modelling group was one of the groups picked in the national climate change process in 1998-99 to assess Canada's ability to achieve Kyoto. At that time, in running our model we recognized tha

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  I'm not recommending a target for the country. What I'd like to provide to the country are the marginal costs of different target levels. The target you see in the diagram in front of you says that we would have to shift toward a carbon tax or its equivalent through regulation of

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  Thank you. You've raised the question about the government coming out with policies while it's also engaged in the whole process of this act. I only want to make one comment here, and that is that in some senses, with different minority governments, if there are areas where the

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  Thank you very much. I'll focus my comments on greenhouse gas emissions with respect to the Clean Air Act. I have provided some slides. I'm actually going to refer to just one of them, and that would be the third slide, entitled “History of Canadian targets, policies, emissions”

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  All right, I'll speak to that, then. The first point I want to make is that we're learning something about the use of the word “targets”. That is, one can talk about targets quite loosely, and those targets may not mean a lot in terms of what actually happens in the economy and

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  Yes, I can. Can you hear me?

Environment committee  In fact, I have no preference between renewable energy, fossil fuels and nuclear energy. That in a way is what I tried to say earlier in giving my answer. I don't have any preference. It's more up to the people of the countries concerned to decide on the benefits that each...

Environment committee  Based on my calculations, within 50 years, fossil fuel clean-up will have the largest market share. That's what I'm talking about in the book I mentioned to you.

Environment committee  The problem is that, as a modeller, I believe it's very hard to confirm that the emissions rate has really been changed in other countries. You can subsidize this or that gas-fired station, but you can never be sure a gas-fired station has been built, and not a coal-fired power s