Information & Ethics committee  I will just pick up on that. The kind of information we would be containing depends on the type of agreement you have. For example, you might have information that a particular container is carrying some prohibited good of some kind. Maybe there is going to be a lot of false tobacco or something, or there might be a bunch of illegal migrants in a container.

Information & Ethics committee  I have to say that is an American issue, who is on their no-fly list and how they can get off their no-fly list. I don't know what procedures the Americans have in place for getting your name removed. Ted Kennedy did get his removed, so there must be some way to do it.

Information & Ethics committee  Since the Privacy Commissioner's audit has taken place, forms have been developed to put out in the field for officers to record what information they have shared. Those forms are provided to the regional offices, which can then choose to go out and audit particular ships or ports, etc., on how they're sharing information.

Information & Ethics committee  Under the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, within the regulations at subsections 150.1(1) and 150.1(2), there are requirements there also that Parliament review some of those arrangements and agreements that we enter into.

Information & Ethics committee  We would expect they would answer the questions. It helps us to establish whether they have the right to enter, whether the goods or personal possessions, or the plants or animals or whatever they might be bringing with them, are being lawfully imported, etc. I've heard that CBSA administers almost 90 acts on behalf of various departments--health acts, food acts, acts for species that are threatened, all kinds of different acts.

Information & Ethics committee  I think it's a work in progress. One of the things we learned from the Auditor General's audit last year on the lookout monitoring was that we needed to work better to close the loop for persons who are intercepted for those reasons going into the U.S. and for coming back into Canada.

Information & Ethics committee  Canada has an information-sharing agreement with regard to persons who are encountering enforcement action and who are not Canadian or American citizens. If it's a Canadian resident or a third-country national who is stopped on the American side, detained and questioned, then we have an information-sharing agreement that enables us to share information on a personal basis, on an individual basis.

Information & Ethics committee  It's the first time I've heard this would be happening. What would we do with it? We wouldn't have any way to do anything with it because we have no way to know what to do with DNA data. It doesn't pop up in any way. We'd have to develop a policy on how to react to that. How to use it, I don't know.

Information & Ethics committee  Yes.

Information & Ethics committee  We don't have access to all the information in CPIC. We have access to certain parts of that information. There are various parts. The CPIC database is huge. It has a lot of information about criminal records and so on. But not all that information is provided to the CBSA for border management purposes.

Information & Ethics committee  I'm not 100% clear. An automatic procedure to check the person, or to--

Information & Ethics committee  I think we do. If I were to describe that situation.... Someone is coming to Canada. We have access to the information of all persons travelling to Canada by air. We have that access through the API/PNR information. So there is a system set up to tell us who is on what flight that is coming from where, what documents they have.

Information & Ethics committee  API/PNR information also gives us information on Canadian citizens who are coming into Canada.

Information & Ethics committee  Did he fly into the United States, if I can ask you that question?

Information & Ethics committee  So there wasn't any activity on the part of the American authorities to deny him or to have him questioned prior to his departure from Canada, which would be how the no-fly list should be working if an individual is flying into the United States. You shouldn't be able to get there, unless the Americans have granted some dispensation for your inadmissibility for being on their no-fly list.