Transport committee  It's a combination, but they go in as a new hire and in an entry-level job, which is as a first officer on probably the smallest aircraft.

Transport committee  No. It's based on seniority, and they're the lowest on the seniority list.

Transport committee  Currently, you don't have flight instructors with that amount of experience, because they've moved on to larger aircraft. That's sort of the crux of the issue. We're saying that if we could somehow entice those pilots with all that experience to come back to teach, maybe in the l

Transport committee  I think we should start with Canada first.

Transport committee  There has been some discussion with industry stakeholders on what I've talked about, but just this much. I think if we truly want to find some permanent solutions, somebody is going to have to give the industry stakeholders a nudge. I think the government has a role there. Ms.

Transport committee  That is the exact issue that I was trying to bring up here. I'll give you a real-life example. About four years ago, Kelowna Flightcraft had the Canada Post-Purolator contract. They'd had it for 20-some years. It was up for renewal. They lost it to Cargojet. At the time, Kelowna

Transport committee  Pilots have to do recurrent ground school once a year. It's a refresher on the systems on the aircraft—the electrical system, for example. Today it's all done by e-learning. I learn a lot more doing it that way than by sitting in a classroom.

Transport committee  That was done through an independent arbitrator, and I was not involved in that dealing.

Transport committee  I think that's what got me interested in flying. I was always amazed at these planes in the sky, and I was able to get up front during a flight one day. In the early part of my career, we were always encouraged to bring passengers up front, for obvious reasons, and with 9/11, we

Transport committee  —and a NEXUS cardholder has a security background check as well. These are some of the things that we've suggested to Transport Canada that perhaps we could look at in the future to allow more people back in the flight decks.

Transport committee  No, they haven't. I totally agree with you. I'm 56 years old and I'm in my 34th year with my airline. We probably won't see new aviators today being with the same airline for 34 years. They want choice and they want to be able to move around. That's why one of the things I was su

Transport committee  Although I'm not 100% sure, I'm very confident that the Germanwings incident would not have happened in Canada, because there's an obligation on the medical examiner in Canada to report such an individual to Transport Canada. That was not the case over in Europe. I do believe tha

Transport committee  To put that on the table, I'll start by saying we're 20% behind what's currently paid on average to pilots in the United States. It's not since deregulation. When a young person is looking at a career, there's no doubt money is a big part of that. If we were to increase the sal

Transport committee  I'll start off. As somebody who represents the pilots you're talking about, there are some good days. I would submit to you that there's no better office in the world than the flight deck of an aircraft, but that's once you're up in the air and you're going. It's all the other

Transport committee  I'm not asking the government to re-regulate the industry, not even maybe. I agree that deregulation is best for consumers. What I'm asking is that the government may want to encourage all the parties in the industry—all the stakeholders—to get together to see if there's a differ