Industry committee  I'll go back to my initial point: implicit consent is a door that everyone will try to walk through. The only way to close that door is to say it's explicit consent. You've already opened it so wide with existing business relationships. Everybody I do business with is automatical

Industry committee  Perhaps I can start, Mr. Masse. From PIAC's point of view, we believe that the speed of unsubscribing should be equal to the speed of subscribing. That was a submission we made in the PIPEDA five-year review. I think the 31 days is being mentioned because the e-mail instantly

Industry committee  The way we read the legislation, there is a violation per each violation of clause 6, and the way I read it, one e-mail could violate clause 6. I then go to clause 20, which says how much per violation. It could be up to $1 million per offence. To me, if you send 1,000 e-mails, i

Industry committee  Yes. We want the “do not call” list to continue. It's just starting.

Industry committee  I agree with that; however, it does have the potential, with a proclamation, to suddenly wipe it out. The hope would be that, by then, the proposed Electronic Commerce Protection Act would cover it.

Industry committee  No.

Industry committee  We do. The concern, though, would be that we move to taking the “do not call” list away too soon, when the infrastructure is not ready at the CRTC to receive perhaps many complaints under this legislation, and that it might not work.

Industry committee  Yes, we are, because it parallels the “do not call” list. Just think about it: On the last day of your 18 months, you can always send another e-mail, and if you get a reply, you get a further 18 months to deal with somebody.

Industry committee  Sure. We view commercial electronic messages, as part of clause 6 rather than just the spyware part, as being sort of a bulk offence, if you will. What is the CRTC going to do? They're going to investigate complaints where they've found 1,000 e-mails, 10,000 e-mails, 100,000 e-ma

Industry committee  I think that financial companies, for example, need to be here in order to offer their services. Otherwise, we also have laws. Internationally, we are the only G8 country without any spam legislation. If we have agreements with those countries, I do not think that our businesses

Industry committee  On our end, we do not foresee any conflicts between the people who will be administering this legislation. The CRTC is responsible for fines. The Commissioner of Competition gets involved only when there is an email or spam message having to do with competition issues. As for th

Industry committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. My name is John Lawford. I am counsel with the Public Interest Advocacy Centre. With me is Janet Lo, also counsel. PIAC has been deeply involved for many years with the efforts to regulate commercial electronic messages--that is, spam--and the Personal In

Finance committee  I'm sorry, in terms of the actual place to put it?

Finance committee  I believe we did not. We gave the background paper saying these are the principles. At that time, our thinking hadn't gotten that crystallized--to putting it right here--so that's our fault, I agree.

Finance committee  I think that would be one good way to go, because it's an issue that will only get larger. As you're saying, it may be difficult for you to put specific wording into this bill at this point, so we would be happy with that.