Finance committee  I can give you another example. I do this position as a volunteer, but I have paid employment as an executive director of a child care program in Winnipeg. I had a call one day a couple of weeks ago, just as I was leaving, from a very distraught father. He said, “I've never needed child care before, but I just had a shift change, and I need a space for my child on Monday.”

Finance committee  It would be well on its way, using those figures.

Finance committee  I would say there's a cost to not funding it. Certainly I would say that the OECD is making recommendations as well. These are not recommendations that we come up with on our own. So certainly we understand what the implications are of a well-funded, well-rounded system that's equitable across the country.

Finance committee  Good morning. The Manitoba Child Care Association is a non-profit, entirely membership-funded organization incorporated in 1974. We have 3,800 members. We're the largest provincial child care organization in Canada and an affiliate member of the Canadian Child Care Federation.