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Justice committee  I can say there was considerable thought given to the exact wording, including extensive consultations with the police themselves. In terms of the wording “reasonable and proportional”, we did endeavour to ensure they were comfortable with that. As I understand it, when this was

May 9th, 2006Committee meeting

Shawn Scromeda

Justice committee  I'm not aware of one right now.

May 9th, 2006Committee meeting

Shawn Scromeda

Justice committee  In terms of who the police forces and other law enforcement agencies have suggested for training, we have responded to their own assessments of training needs. I don't think I could provide an answer to that. We would be responsive to their own assessments of whether they are lik

May 9th, 2006Committee meeting

Shawn Scromeda

Justice committee  Both those questions, unfortunately, are perhaps better addressed through further witnesses. Perhaps we can undertake to help provide the information in cooperation and consultation with them, but I do not have a list right now to share with you of all the different organizations

May 9th, 2006Committee meeting

Shawn Scromeda

Justice committee  Do you want just federal at this point? Just to make it clear, the law enforcement justification is available to police forces under provincial jurisdiction as well. Designations are possible, and in fact have been made, but we don't have a list of every single municipality.

May 9th, 2006Committee meeting

Shawn Scromeda

Justice committee  Do you want just federal, or are you actually looking for a complete list?

May 9th, 2006Committee meeting

Shawn Scromeda

Justice committee  I did give generic examples in my overview. I would prefer to leave the question of operational scenarios and how this happens operationally to police witnesses who may appear. I think they would be in the best position to answer.

May 9th, 2006Committee meeting

Shawn Scromeda

Justice committee  We can assist in that process. I do have with me some of the provincial reports. I'm not sure I have every single one, but I think I have most of them. There was a question earlier about materials we'll be sharing with the committee; I think we can gather most or all of that toge

May 9th, 2006Committee meeting

Shawn Scromeda

Justice committee  The only other federal--

May 9th, 2006Committee meeting

Shawn Scromeda

Justice committee  In fact, Fisheries and Oceans Canada is the example, and Michael Zigayer gave it. It is the only federal department that I know has proceeded toward a designation process. I actually can't confirm that it made designations and I'm not sure yet if the department's minister has iss

May 9th, 2006Committee meeting

Shawn Scromeda

Justice committee  Just to answer your second question first, both Michael Zigayer and I were directly involved in the development of these. Drafting is done by specialized legislative drafters--

May 9th, 2006Committee meeting

Shawn Scromeda

Justice committee  --but we were actually the instructing counsel for those legislative drafters on this provision. Your first question is a longer one and is perhaps a broader one with respect to other international jurisdictions and how they handle an analogous situation. I can give you a round

May 9th, 2006Committee meeting

Shawn Scromeda

Justice committee  We can ensure that you get a copy and an example of that training video as well. That can be distributed as part of the materials.

May 9th, 2006Committee meeting

Shawn Scromeda

Justice committee  I don't think the provisions themselves are what would enhance or cause additional delay. It's the fact of the police using complex investigational techniques in ongoing investigations that sometimes themselves take years and generate a great deal of documentation, whether inside

May 9th, 2006Committee meeting

Shawn Scromeda

Justice committee  Then you're really talking about the requirements under the rules of disclosure. Stinchcombe was a constitutional case; there is a constitutional right for disclosure. So if you were to take an approach statutorily excluding certain information that met the standard of relevance,

May 9th, 2006Committee meeting

Shawn Scromeda