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Justice committee I can say there was considerable thought given to the exact wording, including extensive consultations with the police themselves. In terms of the wording “reasonable and proportional”, we did endeavour to ensure they were comfortable with that. As I understand it, when this was
May 9th, 2006Committee meeting
Shawn Scromeda
Justice committee I'm not aware of one right now.
May 9th, 2006Committee meeting
Shawn Scromeda
Justice committee In terms of who the police forces and other law enforcement agencies have suggested for training, we have responded to their own assessments of training needs. I don't think I could provide an answer to that. We would be responsive to their own assessments of whether they are lik
May 9th, 2006Committee meeting
Shawn Scromeda
Justice committee Both those questions, unfortunately, are perhaps better addressed through further witnesses. Perhaps we can undertake to help provide the information in cooperation and consultation with them, but I do not have a list right now to share with you of all the different organizations
May 9th, 2006Committee meeting
Shawn Scromeda
Justice committee Do you want just federal at this point? Just to make it clear, the law enforcement justification is available to police forces under provincial jurisdiction as well. Designations are possible, and in fact have been made, but we don't have a list of every single municipality.
May 9th, 2006Committee meeting
Shawn Scromeda
Justice committee Do you want just federal, or are you actually looking for a complete list?
May 9th, 2006Committee meeting
Shawn Scromeda
Justice committee I did give generic examples in my overview. I would prefer to leave the question of operational scenarios and how this happens operationally to police witnesses who may appear. I think they would be in the best position to answer.
May 9th, 2006Committee meeting
Shawn Scromeda
Justice committee We can assist in that process. I do have with me some of the provincial reports. I'm not sure I have every single one, but I think I have most of them. There was a question earlier about materials we'll be sharing with the committee; I think we can gather most or all of that toge
May 9th, 2006Committee meeting
Shawn Scromeda
Justice committee The only other federal--
May 9th, 2006Committee meeting
Shawn Scromeda
Justice committee In fact, Fisheries and Oceans Canada is the example, and Michael Zigayer gave it. It is the only federal department that I know has proceeded toward a designation process. I actually can't confirm that it made designations and I'm not sure yet if the department's minister has iss
May 9th, 2006Committee meeting
Shawn Scromeda
Justice committee Just to answer your second question first, both Michael Zigayer and I were directly involved in the development of these. Drafting is done by specialized legislative drafters--
May 9th, 2006Committee meeting
Shawn Scromeda
Justice committee --but we were actually the instructing counsel for those legislative drafters on this provision. Your first question is a longer one and is perhaps a broader one with respect to other international jurisdictions and how they handle an analogous situation. I can give you a round
May 9th, 2006Committee meeting
Shawn Scromeda
Justice committee We can ensure that you get a copy and an example of that training video as well. That can be distributed as part of the materials.
May 9th, 2006Committee meeting
Shawn Scromeda
Justice committee I don't think the provisions themselves are what would enhance or cause additional delay. It's the fact of the police using complex investigational techniques in ongoing investigations that sometimes themselves take years and generate a great deal of documentation, whether inside
May 9th, 2006Committee meeting
Shawn Scromeda
Justice committee Then you're really talking about the requirements under the rules of disclosure. Stinchcombe was a constitutional case; there is a constitutional right for disclosure. So if you were to take an approach statutorily excluding certain information that met the standard of relevance,
May 9th, 2006Committee meeting
Shawn Scromeda