Finance committee  I'm not sure if it was going to be the last question you asked, though. I guess I just want to clarify that it hasn't just been in the last five or six years that we've been in business as remailers--

Finance committee  No. We've been in the business, because there was a stay on that decision put in there, and the decision of the government at the time or...I think the lawsuit was against one company, not against all of them. But we've been in the business for well over 20 years. I guess that's our issue: what are we taking away--

Finance committee  No. Except for that one company, which obeyed the law.

Finance committee  Again, it's all over the map. I really don't have a solid number on what that would be. We're not entirely in agreement with the $40 million to $80 million number. We think it's less than that as a total. But it could be more, because there's stuff going on out there in places that we don't touch.

Finance committee  My reaction is that it hasn't had an impact on their business either at a union level or at the corporation level for the last 20-some years. The talk here today seems to have been around lost revenue. They haven't had that revenue for the last 20 or 25 years. If I'm not mistaken, I read somewhere--I wish I had the reference here today--in a previous incarnation of the committee, whatever committee it was, and it might have been the transport committee at the time....

Finance committee  Absolutely.

Finance committee  Barry, do you have a suggestion?

Finance committee  You'd probably be talking as much as 5,000.

Finance committee  Printers. That's just printers again.

Finance committee  Yes, in the Lower Mainland.

Finance committee  We don't have a number on that. Of the 7,200 printers in Canada, there is a growing portion getting into the remailing business. A number of mail houses that exist in the business aren't covered by our association. A number of international remailers are also part of this business but aren't covered by our association.

Finance committee  Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Good afternoon. Thank you for inviting us here today. My name is Bob Elliott. I'm the president of the Canadian Printing Industries Association. I'm here today with Mr. Barry Sikora, general manager of Classic Impressions Inc., a small businessman and member of our British Columbia association who has been involved in the international mail industry for over 30 years.