Finance committee  It is really vote 1 that you're looking at. It's in the neighbourhood of $90 million.

Finance committee  About 75% of that amount is staff and the rest is the expenses related to the staff in the department.

Finance committee  It's very, very stable. There have been, maybe, moderate increases, but it's quite stable.

Finance committee  Well, we wouldn't have much in the way of capital. The $272,000 is a very small amount, and that's just related to a government-wide program that provided all departments with certain allocations of funds to evaluate the grants and contributions program. So this was an allocation

Finance committee  These are transfers between departments. They aren't in that impact to the fiscal framework; they're just transfers from one department's estimates to another department's estimates.

Finance committee  That's right. Well, they're....

Finance committee  It's our ability to spend, yes. It's that $63,000 you're looking at. Is that right?

Finance committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. I have several departmental colleagues with me here today who will assist in responding to your questions. They are Paul Rochon, Barbara Anderson, Louise Levonian, Brian Ernewein, and Serge Dupont. We are all with the Department of Finance. There's also a

Finance committee  Yes.

Finance committee  The transfers for the territorial governments can be found on the second statutory item on page 9.2.

Finance committee  Chair, could we ask Serge Nadeau to answer that question?

Finance committee  Thank you. Good afternoon, Mr. Chair. My name is Colleen Volk, the assistant deputy minister of the corporate services branch at the Department of Finance. With me today are Barbara Anderson, assistant deputy minister of the federal-provincial relations and social policy branch