Status of Women committee  From a purely statistical standpoint, it's something Statistics Canada has struggled with for years: how do you get to these people? Sylvie could probably talk about it a little bit more, because she runs a survey. Surveys are household-based to a large degree, and how do you get people who do not live in a household?

Status of Women committee  In two weeks, on February 27, there will be a new Stats Canada publication—I guess we can throw out a plug here—called A Portrait of Seniors in Canada. I did not work on that one. It's coming out in two weeks. I know they have some material on that. It should be available at that time.

Status of Women committee  We can give you a few numbers. I don't have a whole lot off the top of my head. Again, 70% of senior women over the age of 85 have disabilities. We've broken that down and asked people in that age group what kind of support they need. As many as 25% or 30% are saying they need help with simple things, like getting their groceries into their home, or that they are having trouble with things like managing their books.

Status of Women committee  I know there have been a couple of major reports on rural Canada, but certainly we have not done anything along the target groups. It's one we've lobbied for. We've done a whole bunch of publications--aboriginal people, immigrants, and groups of that nature. I don't really believe we've done a whole lot of significant work in that area, and it's probably something that should be done.

Status of Women committee  Certainly women in Canada is the whole focus of it.

Status of Women committee  Dr. Stone.

Status of Women committee  I can give you some basic numbers, just to clarify your situation. Indeed, Monica is quite correct. Among senior women immigrants, whether they live alone or in a family, they do tend to have a much higher incidence of low income than other senior women do. I think currently something like 70%--or at least it was at the time of the 2001 census--of senior immigrant women were below the low-income cut-offs.

Status of Women committee  The general comment I have would also follow up on what Madame Demers said; that is, that we also do some work on seniors. When you look at the senior population, people tend to look at it as a homogenous group. But there are very clearly three distinct groups when you look at it statistically.

Status of Women committee  Yes.

Status of Women committee  About four and a half, yes.

Status of Women committee  Yes.

Status of Women committee  Oh, yes.

Status of Women committee  Yes.

Status of Women committee  It's probably beyond our...whatever, but I would say yes.

Status of Women committee  I could answer a couple of them very quickly. Unfortunately, we really didn't break the data down In terms of provinces, for this particular report. If it's something you'd like to see, certainly it's something we could prepare for you. It would be tough to talk off the top of our heads.