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Justice committee  I simply want to say that, as regards expert witnesses, training costs and human resources are not the only things to be considered. There is also the length of time. This is an occupation that one gets better at through experience, over many years. However, it is not easy to ret

May 26th, 2009Committee meeting

chief Jocelyn Latulippe

Justice committee  I am not thinking of any specific argument, other than that in fact the defence tries to establish that the person committed the crime for personal benefit. That prevents us from establishing that it is a crime committed for the benefit of an organization. We are not talking abou

May 12th, 2009Committee meeting

Jocelyn Latulippe

Justice committee  What the enablers do is help to camouflage certain things. Still, before proving that the person has committed a crime for the benefit of the organization, we have to establish the existence of the organization, its structure, its operating methods and its rules of engagement. In

May 12th, 2009Committee meeting

Jocelyn Latulippe

Justice committee  First, I don't want to talk about the example you mentioned. Let's take the example of some criminal organization trying to get control of criminal markets, instead. I come back to the fact that we need to prevent these criminal organizations from getting the support of experien

May 12th, 2009Committee meeting

Jocelyn Latulippe

Justice committee  Depending on the number of witnesses, as we have seen in some trials, it can take as long as three months, the time to prove all of the factors that show that it is a criminal gang. Because a number of witnesses have to be called, and then they are there for several days.

May 12th, 2009Committee meeting

Jocelyn Latulippe

Justice committee  In fact, we think that is part of all the measures dealing with enablers, and it will be included in a document we are currently working on to request some amendments to deal with the new situation. At present, with organized crime offences, the sentence imposed... In fact, the

May 12th, 2009Committee meeting

Jocelyn Latulippe

Justice committee  No, it is a broader study that involves all police investigative activities, and goes right up to reduced capacity. It is explained.

May 12th, 2009Committee meeting

Jocelyn Latulippe

Justice committee  I don't know. That was a quick search from which we learned that measures had been applied, but I don't know the details.

May 12th, 2009Committee meeting

Jocelyn Latulippe

Justice committee  I would also like to add that measures should be taken to simplify disclosure. We apply measures currently, but disclosure in Canada should be standardized and simpler. As I have said before in this committee, we should also adopt measures to deal with all enablers and proxies. T

May 12th, 2009Committee meeting

Jocelyn Latulippe

Justice committee  Organized crime, by nature, is always going to adapt to new legislative developments and police techniques, but we in the police are also able to adapt and keep on top of it. However, I think that this kind of measure would take away high-level organized crime's tool for power,

May 12th, 2009Committee meeting

Jocelyn Latulippe

Justice committee  We have not done a legal analysis, but you can see that it depends on the procedures, the methods used to combat organized crime, and it isn't the same in all the provinces. The possibilities vary in different people's opinions. We think it can be done in the case of major crimin

May 12th, 2009Committee meeting

Jocelyn Latulippe

Justice committee  I have not researched it in depth, but I have been told that in Italy there are rules like this and the Cosa Nostra is a banned criminal organization.

May 12th, 2009Committee meeting

Jocelyn Latulippe

Justice committee  If we rely on the evidence we are currently putting together about the Hells Angels, using the 42 organized crime factors among other things, we think it is.

May 12th, 2009Committee meeting

Jocelyn Latulippe

Justice committee  Obviously the advent of legislation like this would do a lot to redirect our investigation targets, because this kind of measure would mean we could considerably reduce the effectiveness of these groups, which would no longer have the ability to intimidate openly and to advertise

May 12th, 2009Committee meeting

Jocelyn Latulippe

Justice committee  We have to remember that, to simplify it, there are two types of organized crime that present a threat to Canadians. There is organized street crime, where the crimes are more violent, more obvious. However, we must not underestimate the one that represents the greater danger, in

May 12th, 2009Committee meeting

Jocelyn Latulippe