Justice committee  On breaches—this is in Ontario—half result in no custody at all before the courts, in approximately 30% they terminate the conditional sentence, and the balance get some custody.

Justice committee  We answered that. We don't have it; the ministry does.

Justice committee  We will work on that.

Justice committee  It's a matter of terminology in respect of how they want to structure the order and the term on the specific order, whether it's conditional sentencing or a probation order.

Justice committee  Perhaps I didn't clarify it enough. We are in support of Bill C-9. Certain aspects of Bill C-9 we do support--the serious violent offences, violent sexual offences. We also have what we call “non-violent sex offences”, although I'm not certain we'd agree that there's any such t

Justice committee  Manslaughter, any serious violent offence, any contact or non-contact sex offence--anything against any citizen, regardless of whether it's an adult or child.

Justice committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. My name is Don Larman, and I'm the president of the Probation Officers Association of Ontario. With me today is Ms. Cathy Hutchison, past president of the association. The Probation Officers Association of Ontario is a not-for-profit organization represent