Justice committee  Obviously we agree with number one, since that's what we're suggesting this committee do. We would be reluctant to get behind anything that limits the reporting further. We would suggest that with respect to number six, there are a greater number of crimes that ought to be incl

Justice committee  Well, my short answer is they are permitted to commit an assault, short of causing bodily harm or death, so that's okay, but they are not allowed, as I read the legislation, to usurp the usual manner in which one obtains evidence. So there would be an argument to be made by a def

Justice committee  Yes, in a court.

Justice committee  There would be an argument with respect to whether that hair sample was properly obtained. You probably don't want to hear my argument about that now.

Justice committee  It was.

Justice committee  If I were the police officer, I would just have a chat with this fellow I had just arrested on this warrant, convince him to give me all the information I would need to infiltrate the group, and commit the robberies right along with them, because the legislation lets me do that.

Justice committee  But that's what they do. They're infiltrating--

Justice committee  --criminal organizations.

Justice committee  Absolutely.

Justice committee  But if there's an ongoing investigation, as you've heard from other witnesses before you, those matters can be addressed by sealing specific reporting items. We do that by way of warrants now.

Justice committee  But that unsealing is done after a notice of application is brought before a judge, and a judge makes that ruling.

Justice committee  There's no question judges don't always get it right.

Justice committee  And certainly we agree with you that the reporting requirements are deficient. Our main point here is that you don't have enough information to make the decisions that are being asked of you at this time. You need more time. You need more information, and you need to do whatever

Justice committee  It seems to me, sir, when you ask for whom we are achieving this balance or why you are asked to review this matter two or three years hence in order to see if you've struck the right balance, the short answer is you're striking the right balance for the courts, who review your l

Justice committee  Our position is that it's still too early to tell, but I strongly urge the committee to realize that they haven't had to use it. Why is it there?