Evidence of meeting #26 for Agriculture and Agri-Food in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was gmo.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

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Kelvin Einarson  Director and Secretary Treasurer, Manitoba Forage Seed Association Inc.
Kurt Shmon  President, Imperial Seed (1979) Ltd.
Jim Lintott  Chairman, Manitoba Forage Council

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President, Imperial Seed (1979) Ltd.

Kurt Shmon

Do you want it growing along the Trans-Canada highway?

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Conservative

Randy Hoback Conservative Prince Albert, SK

I guess this is the--

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President, Imperial Seed (1979) Ltd.

Kurt Shmon

I'm learning how you guys operate. You just keep talking.

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Voices

Oh, oh!

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Conservative

Randy Hoback Conservative Prince Albert, SK

Yes, but this is the problem. There's nothing in science that says it's bad for me, so why do I care?

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President, Imperial Seed (1979) Ltd.

Kurt Shmon

No, but does the public... It's not a matter of whether it's bad for you or not. Does the public want Monsanto products? Is Monsanto or CFIA going to accept responsibility for their gene escape? That is the question.

If they accept responsibility and I can turn around and sue them for my millions of dollars lost, and my farmers can sue them because their technology is on our land where we don't want it, if they will accept responsibility, I don't think we would be having this argument.

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Conservative

Randy Hoback Conservative Prince Albert, SK

But I could take that same example and use it for a farmer who grows grain right next to an organic farmer. Let's say thistle seed blows in from the organic guy's fields. A shot of Lontrel and it's fixed, but he won't use it. And I pay because my yields are reduced because he won't use it.

There are always examples of that, but government--

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President, Imperial Seed (1979) Ltd.

Kurt Shmon

That's--

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Conservative

Randy Hoback Conservative Prince Albert, SK

Just let me finish.

But government is basically not here to decide marketplace. It's not our role to decide what's acceptable in the marketplace or not. It's our role to accept whether it's safe for the consumer to consume or not.

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President, Imperial Seed (1979) Ltd.

Kurt Shmon

But it says you have an environmental... The CFIA did an environmental impact so they have acknowledged the fact that they are in approval of Roundup Ready alfalfa being on the public's land.

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Conservative

Randy Hoback Conservative Prince Albert, SK

Yes.

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President, Imperial Seed (1979) Ltd.

Kurt Shmon

They are...?

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Conservative

Randy Hoback Conservative Prince Albert, SK

I assume so.

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President, Imperial Seed (1979) Ltd.

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Conservative

Randy Hoback Conservative Prince Albert, SK

Again, I have to trust the CFIA and their science and how they go about doing it, because they're set up there.

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President, Imperial Seed (1979) Ltd.

Kurt Shmon

Well, no... But they're your employees. The Government of Canada employees have said they are in favour of cross-pollination. They acknowledged in the discussion report that this is going to happen.

So that means that the Government of Canada is in favour, by default, of our native alfalfa in our national parks, on our roadways from Ontario all the way to Alberta, and on the Trans-Canada highway, being contaminated with Roundup Ready alfalfa.

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Conservative

Randy Hoback Conservative Prince Albert, SK

I think you're exaggerating quite a bit there--

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Mr. Shmon, this is turning into a debate and we're out of time as it is.

I'll just remind the witnesses that the questions get asked from here, not from your end.

I'd like to thank our witnesses for being here today.

I have a reminder to our members that the report on the future of agriculture--

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A voice

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Order, please. Our report today on the future of agriculture was sent out to every member. On Wednesday we'll be dealing with that report, so you have 48 hours before we get at it.

The meeting is adjourned until Wednesday.