Evidence of meeting #37 for Canadian Heritage in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was broadcasters.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Paul Gratton  Chair of the Board of Directors, Canadian Television Fund
Stéphane Cardin  Vice-President, Strategic Policy Planning and Stakeholder Relations, Canadian Television Fund
Valerie Creighton  President, Canadian Television Fund

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NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

Call the question.

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Bloc

Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC

We have a lot of subamendments.

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Liberal

Denis Coderre Liberal Bourassa, QC

I have a point of clarification on procedure.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger

Go ahead on a point of clarification on procedure.

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Liberal

Denis Coderre Liberal Bourassa, QC

Am I correct in understanding that if we have a friendly amendment and a friendly subamendment because the movers agree to take it as if it was hers, then we don't have to have all those debates on subamendments and amendments?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger

I'm not going to get into legal terms, but I think if we can come up.... We can accept that. I will.

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Liberal

Denis Coderre Liberal Bourassa, QC

Okay. Merci.

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Liberal

Hedy Fry Liberal Vancouver Centre, BC

Mr. Chairman, on that point, I need to respond to Mr. Coderre's suggestion.

I do think that it's not only the mover of the motion who we have to convince with the subamendment; obviously there are other people around this table who may need to hear reasons to convince them. They may not be convinced, actually, so....

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger

Okay. What I'm going to do is go back to Mr. Chong's motion, or the motion Mr. Chong made. Do we have unanimous consent to what Mr. Chong said?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger

Okay, so we're down to funding, period. Correct?

This is the way it reads, and we've all accepted this unanimously:

The Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage recommends that the government commit to allocating to the Canadian Television Fund long-term funding that is indexed to private sector increases and that the share of the Canadian Television Fund allocated to the CBC/SRC productions is always at least 37% of total funding.

Correct?

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NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

Should that be “total CTF funding”?

No, it's “total funding”; sorry.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger

We already have “CTF” up ahead.

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NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

You weren't eliminating the last phrase, were you?

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Conservative

Michael Chong Conservative Wellington—Halton Hills, ON

It's as you read it. That's what I have written.

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NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

You were eliminating the last phrase of the government's follow-up?

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Conservative

Michael Chong Conservative Wellington—Halton Hills, ON

What I had assumed was that Hedy's addition after that was to follow.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger

I'm just going up to there, and we all agreed to that.

Now Mr. Coderre has a little....

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Liberal

Denis Coderre Liberal Bourassa, QC

The only thing is, can we put between parentheses, after “total funding”, “historical access”—accès historique? There's a reference, and we know what we're talking about, and I don't think we can play with the numbers afterwards: we know what it means. It's global, total, or whatever you want to call it, but it's an historical access, a term of reference.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger

Do we have unanimous consent to add in brackets, after “total funding”, “historical access”?

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Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

Can I have a point of clarification here?

I'm really lost. I don't know whether I'm the only one who's lost as to exactly where we are on this motion right now. We had an amendment, then we had a suggested friendly subamendment, and we had a second friendly amendment to the amendment.

I don't even know where we are. I don't know how this actually reads right now.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger

Strike off the last subamendment, because it was accepted unanimously from Mr. Chong.

Now we're at the subamendment of Mr. Coderre, to put in brackets, after “37% of total funding”, the words “historical access”.

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Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

Just for clarification, the only thing we have actually done to this point to the original motion is change the word “so” to “and”. Is that correct?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger

No.

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Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

We've added the words “of the CTF” after the word “share”. Is that correct?

That was done by unanimous consent--is that correct?