Yes.
Evidence of meeting #37 for Canadian Heritage in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was broadcasters.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Evidence of meeting #37 for Canadian Heritage in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was broadcasters.
A recording is available from Parliament.
5:15 p.m.
Conservative
Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON
Okay, and now we are talking about another subamendment after the word “funding”. Is that correct?
5:15 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger
That's correct, and it's in brackets: “historical access”. Again, it's a term of reference.
Mr. Malo.
5:15 p.m.
Bloc
Luc Malo Bloc Verchères—Les Patriotes, QC
I do not know if this is right, but according to what is written here, we are on a break.
5:15 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger
Everybody wants a break, and we'll get it if we all cooperate here and get this thing done. We're going to have a break in 12 minutes, come hell or high water, because we're going to adjourn on time.
5:15 p.m.
Conservative
Jim Abbott Conservative Kootenay—Columbia, BC
This is important. We aren't in camera? Are we being recorded, or what is going on here?
5:15 p.m.
Conservative
Jim Abbott Conservative Kootenay—Columbia, BC
Okay. That's all I wanted to know. I just wanted to know what our status is.
5:20 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger
Anyway, do we have unanimous consent for Mr. Coderre's “historical access” to go in brackets?
5:20 p.m.
Liberal
Denis Coderre Liberal Bourassa, QC
That's a term of reference. It's coming out from what this is all about. The Canadian Television Fund and the relationship vis-a-vis CBC/Radio-Canada always spoke in those terms: that you have an historical access of 37%.
It's a term of reference. I'm not reinventing the wheel. I don't play smartass. I'm just referring to what already exists.
5:20 p.m.
Conservative
Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC
I understand that. It's just to clarify in my mind.
In the past, since the creation of the CTF, has the CBC always received the 37%?
5:20 p.m.
Conservative
Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC
If it's an average, that's not historical. I think you're confusing things more than anything else. Leave it out and keep it clean.
5:20 p.m.
Conservative
5:20 p.m.
Bloc
Luc Malo Bloc Verchères—Les Patriotes, QC
Canadian Heritage set the 37% criterion. That was set when the fund was established. It is not mathematical; it is not an average or anything like that.
5:20 p.m.
Liberal
Hedy Fry Liberal Vancouver Centre, BC
Just to speak to the issue of Mr. Coderre's amendment, I think we heard today, and what Madame Mourani is asking for, is a floor, a minimum. And they have said there is an historical average of a minimum of 37% over the years. They may sometimes get 50%, but it's never gone below 37%. I think that's what that amendment is trying to say, that it's an historical average.
5:20 p.m.
Conservative
Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC
We use 37% because it's specific, it's clear, rather than muddying it with historical....
5:20 p.m.
Liberal
Hedy Fry Liberal Vancouver Centre, BC
But he's just putting that in brackets. It's an explanatory piece for anybody who's reading the recommendation.
5:20 p.m.
Conservative
5:20 p.m.
Bloc
Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC
When Mr. Coderre says "historical access", the 37%...
it's just for precision for you, because in French it's very clear. So to help you to understand in English, we added the historical access. That's it. But in French,
"total funding" says it all. That is why I do not understand the problem with the words "historical access".
5:20 p.m.
Conservative
Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC
So are we including it in the English, but not in the French version?
Leave it out.