Evidence of meeting #38 for Canadian Heritage in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was copyright.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Amanda Cliff  Director General, Broadcasting and Digital Communications Branch, Department of Canadian Heritage
Louis Beauséjour  Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Human Resources and Skills Development Canada , Department of Human Resources and Skills Development
Pamela Miller  Director General, Telecommunications Policy Branch, Department of Industry
Barbara Motzney  Director General, Copyright Policy, Department of Canadian Heritage
Colette Downie  Director General, Marketplace Framework Policy Branch, Department of Industry

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Armstrong Conservative Cumberland—Colchester—Musquodoboit Valley, NS

The first question I have is on the analog spectrum. We spoke of the possible impacts of the analog spectrum on rural and remote areas. I suppose it's an auction of time and space.

Can you elaborate on what those impacts could be?

4:55 p.m.

Director General, Telecommunications Policy Branch, Department of Industry

Pamela Miller

I think what we saw introduced in the consultation was questions. The 700-megahertz spectrum has very good propagation qualities. It's excellent for rural and remote areas. We're examining how that spectrum could be used, and the types of coverage and enhanced services that could result from it.

The 700-megahertz spectrum will enable what's called the 4G LTE technology, which really allows mobile broadband, so it could be very beneficial to rural areas.

5 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Armstrong Conservative Cumberland—Colchester—Musquodoboit Valley, NS

To put it in layman's terms, if you had your iPad or some sort of tablet device, you could actually use it in a mobile way in a remote or rural community, which you couldn't do otherwise.

5 p.m.

Director General, Telecommunications Policy Branch, Department of Industry

Pamela Miller

Yes, it would enable a broadband application.

5 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Armstrong Conservative Cumberland—Colchester—Musquodoboit Valley, NS

We should be very careful how we use that process. It could level the playing field between urban areas, which enjoy significant broadband access now, and small rural communities that may currently be at a disadvantage.

5 p.m.

Director General, Telecommunications Policy Branch, Department of Industry

Pamela Miller

Indeed, and we also need to realize there is something called HSPA , which is high-speed packet access. It is available now to 96% of the Canadian population. It enables broadband access as well. With the 700-megahertz spectrum, it will enable even better high-quality service, faster service.

5 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Armstrong Conservative Cumberland—Colchester—Musquodoboit Valley, NS

Does it face the same sort of geographic challenges Mr. Richards spoke of, with the small Rocky Mountains and other challenges?

5 p.m.

Director General, Telecommunications Policy Branch, Department of Industry

Pamela Miller

Wireless is a lot more flexible than wireline. The problem with wireline is it's actually a terrestrial solution, so you have to dig. Wireless is more flexible, but obviously going through mountains is still a challenge. I think that's where the 700-megahertz spectrum has some particular attributes, because it is in the lower frequencies. They have better propagation and can go farther.

5 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Armstrong Conservative Cumberland—Colchester—Musquodoboit Valley, NS

Is there the opportunity to also improve self-service in areas that are experiencing difficulty now through this technology, or is it not able to do that?

5 p.m.

Director General, Telecommunications Policy Branch, Department of Industry

Pamela Miller

I think everyone's expecting the 700-megahertz spectrum will be offering more spectrum to enable carriers to offer higher speeds, and it's going to. Generally the more spectrum you have, the more spectrum you can put into the market, and the better off consumers are going to be. We know there's going to be a huge demand for spectrum. All the applications now are demanding a lot of spectrum, so that's one of the main goals: to get that spectrum into usage.

5 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Armstrong Conservative Cumberland—Colchester—Musquodoboit Valley, NS

Thanks very much for that.

I have an unrelated question. It goes back to what Ms. Fry was mentioning in relation to Mr. Bieber. He was able to exploit his talent and broadcast it across the world. He's on YouTube and other digital technology. What's HRSDC doing to support digital skills in the cultural sector? A lot of artists who are older, or people my age--or Royal's age--may not have the skills to actually upload and do all these things. What's HRSDC doing?

5 p.m.

Bloc

Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC

It's not a matter of age.

February 2nd, 2011 / 5 p.m.

Conservative

Royal Galipeau Conservative Ottawa—Orléans, ON

It's his haircut.

5 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Armstrong Conservative Cumberland—Colchester—Musquodoboit Valley, NS

I have hair.

5 p.m.

Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Human Resources and Skills Development Canada , Department of Human Resources and Skills Development

Louis Beauséjour

The department has taken a certain number of initiatives specifically with the cultural sector in mind, through the Sector Council Program, among others. We fund various projects, one of which is funded with the Cultural Human Resources Council. This project examines the repercussions of digital technology on the cultural sector. Human Resources Development Canada has invested $440,000 into a study on this topic. The study findings will provide the cultural industry with a better idea of sectors where workers need to improve their skills in order to adapt to leading-edge technology and to prepare for the approaches and jobs of tomorrow. This is clearly one of the areas in which the department is investing in order to support the cultural sector.

Generally speaking, we have a certain number of projects in place for enabling people to develop their own digital skills and to access various media through the Aboriginal Skills and Employment Training Strategy, or ASETS. We have established a connection between training and labour market demand. This will help aboriginals contribute to the economy. This program enables people to assess their own digital skills and to sign up for training programs on computer and digital skills.

In addition, a survey was conducted of participants in the Targeted Initiative for Older Workers, which provides 55- to 64-year-old workers with skill development services and work experience, as well as employment assistance services. According to the survey, 90% of participants stated that having better computer skills would strongly affect their return to the labour market. Consequently, many projects are related to this initiative and seek to provide older Canadian workers with the opportunity to acquire skills and knowledge that will in turn help them increase their use of digital skills.

This concludes my overview of some ongoing projects.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Mr. Armstrong, did you have anything further?

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Armstrong Conservative Cumberland—Colchester—Musquodoboit Valley, NS

I have one more question.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

Yes, go ahead.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Armstrong Conservative Cumberland—Colchester—Musquodoboit Valley, NS

That was informative.

Not only the federal government is involved in this area. The provinces and the territories also have jurisdiction in several of these areas. What types of activities are going on in provinces that we are partners with, or what provincial activities are being done independently to support cultural integration in the media and the cultural exploitation of the media for Canadian artists and Canadian producers?

5:05 p.m.

Director General, Broadcasting and Digital Communications Branch, Department of Canadian Heritage

Amanda Cliff

That's a very good question. I don't know.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Armstrong Conservative Cumberland—Colchester—Musquodoboit Valley, NS

It would be interesting to know that. We could probably partner in a lot of these different areas.

5:05 p.m.

Director General, Broadcasting and Digital Communications Branch, Department of Canadian Heritage

Amanda Cliff

I'm sorry; I apologize. It's not an area that I am an expert in, but I will endeavour to get back to you on that.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Michael Chong

You can address your response to the clerk, and he'll have it distributed.

Thank you, Mr. Armstrong.

Go ahead, Mrs. Crombie.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

Bonnie Crombie Liberal Mississauga—Streetsville, ON

Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.

Many of the witnesses who appeared before our committee testified as to the challenges and pitfalls of vertical integration. Do you have a similar concern with the significant concentration of vertical integration in the industry?

5:05 p.m.

Director General, Broadcasting and Digital Communications Branch, Department of Canadian Heritage

Amanda Cliff

Could the member repeat the question? I'm sorry.