You are saying to combine the two.
I want to ask Monsieur LaBarge something.
Our regional chair in Halton, Gary Carr, was a professional hockey player in a previous career. I've been talking to him. Every once in a while I see him; I run into him every few months. He is in great shape. He lost a ton of weight that he didn't want to have by walking. He and his wife walk a lot, so I started to do it with my wife. We go to the conservation areas in Halton. We have beautiful conservation areas, and we have access to the Bruce Trail.
I want to ask you something. I am talking about financial barriers. I know there are solutions elsewhere. Any family can go to the mall and walk around for free. However, to go to the Halton region conservation areas, it's $16 if you want to go for a walk. They say, “Well, you should buy a pass for $150.” Some people don't have $150. A lot of people live paycheque to paycheque. What do they do in other communities to give people access to a place where they don't have to pay $16 to go for a walk?