Evidence of meeting #116 for Canadian Heritage in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was funding.

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MPs speaking

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David Dendooven  Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic Policy, Planning and Corporate Affairs, Department of Canadian Heritage
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Geneviève Desjardins
Ian Brodie  Professor, University of Calgary, As an Individual
Guillaume Rousseau  Law Professor, As an Individual
Geoffrey Sigalet  Assistant Professor, As an Individual
Marika Giles Samson  Director, Court Challenges Program of Canada
Humera Jabir  Staff Lawyer, West Coast Legal Education and Action Fund

April 18th, 2024 / 5:20 p.m.

The Clerk of the Committee Ms. Geneviève Desjardins

Yes.

I'll read the full motion with the amendment:

That, notwithstanding the motion adopted by the committee on Thursday, February 1, 2024, with respect to the review of Bill C-316, the committee schedule a minimum of three meetings with witnesses on April 18, April 30 and May 2 respectively; that the deadline for amendments be no earlier than April 30, 2024; and that the committee begin clause-by-clause consideration no earlier than May 7, 2024.

It is, at the earliest....

Give me a second. I'm sorry; I'm just going through the—

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

Clerk, is there any way that amendment could be...?

5:20 p.m.

The Clerk

Yes. I'm typing it up as we speak.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

Thank you.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

Could we suspend until we get the language?

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

Could we suspend for a second? We'll get this distributed to members.

We'll suspend for a couple of minutes.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

The clerk has just sent the amendment out to your P9s.

Before we get into a discussion, to the department officials, thank you. I don't think you're going to be needed. We're just about wrapped up here.

Mr. Dendooven and Mr. McMurren, thank you very much for your presence today. Thank you both for coming from the department.

We will have a discussion here, since Mr. Champoux has an amendment. Has everybody received the amendment? It is the following:

That, notwithstanding the motion adopted by committee on Thursday, February 1, 2024, with respect to the consideration of Bill—

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

On a point of order, Mr. Chair.

As I am not a regular member of this committee, I haven't received a copy of the amendment. Would it be possible for the clerk—

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

You probably didn't get it, Mr. Godin.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Could you send it?

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

Yes. Thank you.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Thank you. I'm sorry.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

Did you get it, Mr. Serré?

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Anthony Housefather Liberal Mount Royal, QC

Mr. Chair, I didn't get it either.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

Okay, Mr. Housefather, we have old new members, and you're one of them. Mr. Louis has also joined us now, as well as Mr. McKinnon, although it really doesn't pertain to Bill C-316. Well, it does, but not for the vote here.

Go ahead, Mr. Gourde.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Jacques Gourde Conservative Lévis—Lotbinière, QC

Mr. Chair, we normally have to conclude at 5:30 p.m.

Do we have to make arrangements to continue beyond 5:30 p.m.? My colleague has to leave, and I also have something in 10 minutes. At worst, we could continue at the next meeting. It will be long in any case.

I'm disappointed that my colleague has brought his motion forward because I still had two or three questions for the witnesses. We may be forced to bring them back. I would have liked to put some questions to the witnesses. If we want to do a good job, we have to be able to ask all the questions we have to ask.

That being said, we may need one or two more meetings. We'll discuss this again at the next meeting.

I move that we adjourn.

5:30 p.m.

Bloc

Martin Champoux Bloc Drummond, QC

On a point of order, Mr. Chair.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

What's that, Mr. Champoux?

5:30 p.m.

Bloc

Martin Champoux Bloc Drummond, QC

You can't move to adjourn the meeting when you don't have the floor or when you take the floor following a point of order. I don't know what my colleague's intervention was about. I think we can resolve the matter in a few minutes if we all show—

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

On a point of order, Mr. Chair.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

Mr. Godin, go ahead.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

As far as I know, you have to obtain the unanimous consent of the committee members in order to extend a meeting beyond its scheduled time.

5:30 p.m.

Bloc

Martin Champoux Bloc Drummond, QC

I'm pretty sure he has to get the support of a majority of members, not unanimous consent. We can put that question to Madam Clerk.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Kevin Waugh

After Mr. Champoux, I recognized Mr. Godin.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Marc Serré Liberal Nickel Belt, ON

There are two votes.