Evidence of meeting #73 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Natalie Jeanneault

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB

Could you now read to the committee the natural resources motion that was passed in public yesterday?

12:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Is this it here? Okay—

12:15 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

Mr. Chair, the proposed amendment is quite simple: It would add a witness, the Minister of Energy and Minerals of Alberta.

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

It is quite simple, yes.

12:15 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

When can we vote on something as simple as this?

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

We'll do it once no one else wants to speak.

With that, I will suspend for a moment.

Given that we're debating the amendment, and it's very specific about inviting Brian Jean, I think I will decide not to read the NRCan motion at the moment. Let's just get—

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB

Okay, so we're back on the—

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

We're back on the amendment.

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB

Well, we'll talk about the—

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

We're back on inviting Brian Jean. I'd be happy to....

Has this been distributed?

12:15 p.m.

The Clerk

Yes.

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Okay, it's been distributed, so I don't really know if I need to read it. Anyway, we'll get to that later.

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB

That will be the debate later.

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Yes. Okay.

We're back on the amendment.

Are you...?

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB

I'm not done yet.

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Okay. Go ahead, then.

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB

Brian Jean is the minister of...?

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

It's energy and mines, I believe.

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB

Last time I checked, I believe that's a natural resources responsibility. I think this is the whole point of what my colleagues are trying to prove out here. The natural resources committee has passed it. They are going to be studying this. I think it would be even better if we could see what they came up with it from their angle. Then, after they did their study, we could complement theirs by doing another study at that time. That's what I would ask of this committee: that we park this motion just to see what they come up with in the natural resources committee. If it's that big a deal and there could be holes being driven right through it, we could actually then get on with some really good solutions from an environmental perspective.

Right now, for a federal committee to call out an energy minister of a province is pretty rare. To call out an industry rep to come out here and to impact a certain industry is doing nothing more than really isolating and making the environmental conversation more divisive than ever. I really don't think this is a good, positive conversation.

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

That is noted.

Mr. Longfield, you're on the list.

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

Lloyd Longfield Liberal Guelph, ON

Mr. van Koeverden covered my points very well.

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Okay.

Go ahead, Mr. Weiler.

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

Patrick Weiler Liberal West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast—Sea to Sky Country, BC

I would say that one of the reasons it's important that we have this in this committee is that one of the measures the government is actively developing right now is a regulation to cap emissions from the oil and gas sector. When very clear comments coming from one of the major oil-producing companies in Canada are making it very clear that they're deprioritizing action on climate, I think it's directly within the mandate of this committee that we be looking into that in further detail so that we can be better informed and better able to do our due diligence on this forthcoming regulation that we'll be expecting in the coming months.

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Go ahead, Ms. Thompson.

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

Joanne Thompson Liberal St. John's East, NL

Thank you.

I don't know if it's the appropriate time, but I think we should vote on this. We've spent a considerable amount of time talking. I think it's quite ironic that it's the clean tech study we're pushing to the side again. We spent a considerable amount of time on it in the spring and we've still not completed it.

This is the work of the committee. It is around the environment, it's around emissions and it's around how we address the climate crisis in real time, so I would like to see this go to a vote.