Environment Committee on Nov. 30th, 2023

[Monique Pauzé, Bloc, Repentigny, QC]

I don't want to prolong all this, but if I contest your decision to rule this motion in order...

[The Chair, Liberal, Francis Scarpaleggia]

Excuse me for a moment.

I just want to reiterate to the witnesses that their testimony is finished for today, and that we'll be inviting them back at a later date that works for everyone.

Mr. Pentland, Mr. Gilvesy and Ms. Botelho, it was very interesting, and we want to continue to ask you questions so that we can benefit from your expertise. Thank you very much.

Ms. Pauzé, you have the floor.

[Monique Pauzé, Bloc, Repentigny, QC]

It's a dilatory motion, I've just been told.

I'm tabling this motion so that we can get on with the debate right away.

[The Chair, Liberal, Francis Scarpaleggia]

So you don't agree with the fact that I found...

[Monique Pauzé, Bloc, Repentigny, QC]

I don't agree with your decision to rule it in order.

In fact, Mrs. Chatel's motion opens up a whole new debate. It's not that it's not interesting, on the contrary, but we have a motion before us. I think we could proceed quickly.

[The Chair, Liberal, Francis Scarpaleggia]

Ms. Pauzé objects to the chair's decision to rule the amendment in order. This is a motion without debate. We shall now proceed to the vote.

[Taylor Bachrach, NDP, Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC]

On a point of order, the interpretation said that the ruling of the chair was that the amendment was out of order. I heard you say that the amendment was in order.

[The Chair, Liberal, Francis Scarpaleggia]

It was in order.

[Taylor Bachrach, NDP, Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC]

Well, the interpretation just said the ruling was that the amendment was out of order. Maybe we can just clarify.

[The Chair, Liberal, Francis Scarpaleggia]

No, I ruled it in order.

[Taylor Bachrach, NDP, Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC]

That's what I heard too.

[Dan Mazier, Conservative, Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB]

The challenge to the chair is that it is out of order.

[The Chair, Liberal, Francis Scarpaleggia]

Mrs. Chatel, I'd like to ask you for clarification. I want to make sure I understand.

You're not asking for a study. You're asking for information on adjustments. You're not asking the department to provide an exhaustive analysis. It's more of an inquiry, correct?

[Gérard Deltell, Conservative, Louis-Saint-Laurent, QC]

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, Francis Scarpaleggia]

I just want to clarify that, Mr. Deltell.

Is that it, Mrs. Chatel?

[Sophie Chatel, Liberal, Pontiac, QC]

Yes, that's right.

[The Chair, Liberal, Francis Scarpaleggia]

Mr. Deltell, you have the floor on a point of order.

[Gérard Deltell, Conservative, Louis-Saint-Laurent, QC]

Mr. Chair, what is the exact wording of the motion?

[The Chair, Liberal, Francis Scarpaleggia]

I'm getting there.

We'll soon get back to Ms. Pauzé, who expresses her disagreement with my decision.

Mrs. Chatel, could you please read the wording of your amendment to Mr. Mazier's motion so that we can fully understand?

[Sophie Chatel, Liberal, Pontiac, QC]

It would simply be a matter of adding the fact that since representatives from Environment and Climate Change Canada will be with us to present the analyses, they could also give us an update on the status of border carbon adjustments during these presentations.

[The Chair, Liberal, Francis Scarpaleggia]

Perhaps I misunderstood the original motion.

Mr. Mazier, you're not asking for the department to appear. It's about providing information.

[Dan Mazier, Conservative, Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB]

It's just for a report.

[The Chair, Liberal, Francis Scarpaleggia]

All right. We do not request that departmental representatives appear before the committee.

[Sophie Chatel, Liberal, Pontiac, QC]

I may have misunderstood, but it's about adding an update.

[The Chair, Liberal, Francis Scarpaleggia]

You want an update on adjustments.