Evidence of meeting #8 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was money.
A recording is available from Parliament.
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As an Individual
I don't think this contact took place at all, because he could do nothing. He did nothing.
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Liberal
Robert Thibault Liberal West Nova, NS
Who at Thyssen would you have advised that Mulroney was on the file?
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As an Individual
I told Mr. Massmann and Mr. Haastert that this is something we have to wait for, and that Mr. Mulroney is prepared to support our activities in Quebec. The gentlemen, especially Mr. Massmann, negotiated later on with Mr. Ouellet, I think it was, in Quebec on the project.
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Liberal
Robert Thibault Liberal West Nova, NS
In your March 1993 letter to Prime Minister Brian Mulroney, you mention a meeting between yourself, the prime minister of the day—Mulroney—and Minister Elmer MacKay that took place at 7 Rideau Gate. Was the purpose of this meeting for you to lobby the Canadian government about the LAVs from Thyssen?
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As an Individual
Mr. Thibault, I think the address you give is the guest house or something like that. When we came there, Mr. Mulroney asked us to come to his place, to Sussex 26, and we had breakfast together.
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As an Individual
Yes.
The purpose of the meeting was the project, and especially my grave concerns about the safety of the Canadian soldiers. I showed him this metal plate from the German minister of defence, where we shot through the armament from the car.
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Liberal
Robert Thibault Liberal West Nova, NS
So you were working at that time with Mr. Mulroney. You were dealing on the question of Thyssen, on the—
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As an Individual
A hundred percent, sure. I did this since 1985, constantly.
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Liberal
Robert Thibault Liberal West Nova, NS
I look at the testimony Mr. Mulroney gave during the preliminary hearings on his lawsuit with the federal government, wherein he says—and I paraphrase, but it's from a longer context—that he “had had no dealings with Schreiber”, and now there is a suggestion that this means prior to his testimony of that date. Others would suggest, when they read it, that it meant in general, that he had had no dealings.
These were dealings. You were dealing with Mulroney and with his government on the question of Thyssen, right?
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Liberal
Robert Thibault Liberal West Nova, NS
Who arranged this meeting, first at 7 Rideau Gate and then at the Prime Minister's? Who was organizing this for you?
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As an Individual
I would think Elmer MacKay, who used to be the minister of ACOA and was responsible for the project, did that.
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December 11th, 2007 / 11:50 a.m.
Bloc
Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC
Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
Mr. Schreiber, I'd like to go back to the letter of May 8 of this year, which we talked about last week. Essentially, you told us that Fred Doucet had asked you, in late 1992 or early 1993, to transfer the money to Mr. Mulroney's lawyer in Switzerland. I have a few points that I would like you to clarify on that subject.
Do you have a more precise memory of the moment Fred Doucet asked you that? Were you in the offices of GCI, Government Consulting Inc., at that time?
