Evidence of meeting #8 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was money.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Karlheinz Schreiber  As an Individual

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC

Have you or anyone acting on your behalf approached the RCMP to offer to make a deal that would have you avoid extradition?

12:25 p.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

Are you asking whether anybody made a deal with me?

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC

Have you or somebody on your behalf ever approached the RCMP about offering to make a deal to give them information so that you could avoid extradition?

12:25 p.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

I had not such a discussion with them, and I don't know.

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC

You're not sure?

12:25 p.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

I am not sure, no. I for sure did not speak with them about any deal.

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC

Has anybody on your behalf?

12:25 p.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

I don't know.

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC

Mr. Schreiber, when you first appeared before this committee you told us that you were the victim--

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

You have a minute left.

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC

Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

You said that you were the victim and you finally wanted to tell your side of the story, yet you haven't really told us anything new; in fact, you have been using your immunity in Parliament to cast aspersions and to make victims of other individuals without providing a shred of evidence. Is it your hope that by name-dropping and by maligning numerous high-profile individuals, you'll delay and possibly avoid extradition back to Germany?

12:25 p.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

No. I tried all the time, and I think you are pretty much aware that this has been going on since 1996, either in a courtroom or in front of an inquiry, which for years I asked for. I hope very much that the Conservatives finally do it to bring out the truth. On top of this, if I could get my day in court in Canada, all Canadians could see what the Germans and the Canadians together have fabricated, and they would be shocked. And I would be happy to do that every day, sir.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Your time is up.

Colleagues, I'd like to propose to you how we finish off the remaining time. It would appear that we can have one more complete round. So each party has one more round. It will take us to about 1:05.

There have been discussions among all the parties. I understand that it's acceptable to the members that our in camera session not be held after this meeting. Rather, we will meet tomorrow at approximately 5:30 for one hour, if that's acceptable to members.

If there are no questions, we'll proceed now with Mr. Dhaliwal for ten minutes.

December 11th, 2007 / 12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Newton—North Delta, BC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Mr. Schreiber, thanks for coming back again.

Can you tell me, what was Mr. Brian Mulroney's reaction when he got the first envelope with $100,000 in cash?

12:25 p.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

Oh, he was very happy and he said “Thank you”.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Newton—North Delta, BC

That's very nice.

Mr. Schreiber, you mentioned the guest house at 7 Rideau Gate. Why mention this guest house if you moved on to the Sussex side for breakfast?

12:25 p.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

It was agreed upon between Mr. MacKay and Mr. Mulroney to meet at this guest house. I even think that Elmer MacKay and I went there, but then we were asked to come to the other building.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Newton—North Delta, BC

Did you know that this guest house was for foreign guests?

12:25 p.m.

As an Individual

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Newton—North Delta, BC

It was for foreign guests, this building there.

12:25 p.m.

As an Individual

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Newton—North Delta, BC

Is it possible that any German dignitaries were present in town at that time?

12:25 p.m.

As an Individual

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Newton—North Delta, BC

Can you get back to the committee with the date of this meeting, please, if possible?

12:25 p.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

I can try to do my best. Probably I would be able to if Elmer MacKay's office took notes, but from my side, at the moment, I would be unable to tell you.