That's right, because there is somehow a difference between criminals, right? Because when you're a criminal with a $1,200 suit and you put the deal together.... They later boasted at Imperial Tobacco that the $600 million fine represented the profits from a single year of smuggling organized by Imperial Tobacco. So not only were the networks, which you're describing now as the big problem, created by Imperial Tobacco, but the very individuals who are still members of those smuggling networks were the ones put in place by your company. You've had time to check that too, I hope, Mr. Clayton.
On September 17th, 2009. See this statement in context.