Evidence of meeting #4 for Foreign Affairs and International Development in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was afghanistan.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Robert Greenhill  President, Canadian International Development Agency
Leonard Edwards  Deputy Minister, Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade
Gregory Graham  Acting Vice-President, Human Resources and Corporate Services Branch (HRCS), Canadian International Development Agency
Clerk of the Committee  Mrs. Angela Crandall

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Thank you.

We'll go to Mr. Obhrai and Mr. Goldring very quickly. You only have seven minutes.

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Deepak Obhrai Conservative Calgary East, AB

I have no questions.

Go ahead, Mr. Goldring.

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Conservative

Peter Goldring Conservative Edmonton East, AB

Thank you very much.

To the comments of putting increased emphasis on the Americas, prioritizing, has there been a corresponding ramping up, if you like, of our presence in the high commissions, in the embassies, for looking at trade and economic opportunities? Is this part of the estimates increases to put more resources to it?

I'm thinking in key areas--for example, Barbados, which is key to South America, and possibly even looking at the upcoming opportunities that we would see in the eastern European areas, and knowing that the embassy there has been seeking more increased resources to be able to explore opportunities.

12:10 p.m.

Deputy Minister, Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade

Leonard Edwards

The specific answer is there's nothing in the supplementary estimates that indicates we are getting new funds to put additional resources into the Americas, at least for this year. I can't speak for plans of the government going forward.

In terms of the global commerce strategy, however, there will be resources that will be available for Asia, as I pointed out in response to an earlier question, but also probably for the Americas. These decisions have not yet been taken.

Our missions in the Americas are already fairly well resourced. We do have good resources in the region. We will need to, and we are presently as we develop our strategy, conduct a mission-by-mission analysis to see how many additional resources are needed in trade or in political or in other areas.

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Peter Goldring Conservative Edmonton East, AB

So this will be a future plan to increase where it's felt to be necessary, but it's all part and parcel of this prioritizing of the Americas.

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Deputy Minister, Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade

Leonard Edwards

That's correct, yes.

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Conservative

Peter Goldring Conservative Edmonton East, AB

And the second—

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

You have about 40 seconds.

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Peter Goldring Conservative Edmonton East, AB

In regard to the comments on working on the democracy in Haiti and what has been done, we just completed a major report recently here in the committee. Is any of that report being transferred into a different direction to improving democracy development in Haiti?

12:10 p.m.

President, Canadian International Development Agency

Robert Greenhill

Thank you.

First of all, there's an example of where our departments work very closely together on the whole aspect of democracy promotion. We're very involved in helping to continue to reinforce the electoral commission in Haiti, and on the voter registration cards, which were a key element of that last election, we're now working with the Haitian government to make it permanent so people have permanent identities. That's useful from a democratic point of view and it's also useful from a general rights point of view in terms of their identification and ability to obtain services.

We've also engaged the Parliamentary Centre for Foreign Affairs and Foreign Trade, which is working with parliamentarians, 90% of whom had never been inside a parliamentary building before they were elected, to actually help them put in place committee systems such as yours, to actually make that concept of democracy real in a daily sense. So, yes, we're very engaged in helping to move Haiti along the element of democratic—

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Thank you, Mr. Greenhill.

Now to Madame St-Hilaire.

12:15 p.m.

Bloc

Caroline St-Hilaire Bloc Longueuil—Pierre-Boucher, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Greenhill, it would appear that CIDA's evaluation process is virtually paralyzed by the fact that the standing offers awarded to the five biggest companies have been exhausted.

What do you think of that?

12:15 p.m.

President, Canadian International Development Agency

Robert Greenhill

I didn't clearly understand the question.

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Bloc

Caroline St-Hilaire Bloc Longueuil—Pierre-Boucher, QC

I'd like to hear your comments on CIDA's program or project evaluation process. Is it still in operation?

12:15 p.m.

President, Canadian International Development Agency

Robert Greenhill

Yes, under the

management accountability framework

the Treasury Board has characterized CIDA's independent evaluation as strong.

We have an independent evaluation function that's been in place for some years. It's worked very effectively. For example, we just did a national program evaluation of the Afghanistan program. We also participate in very in-depth evaluations with other donors of key international programs. I mentioned the micro-finance facility. In fact our evaluation system is strong, and it's being strengthened by the addition of new independent members of the evaluation.

One interesting item is we also in this last year did a meta-evaluation of a series of evaluations over the last few years, to draw out general lessons learned. I'd be pleased to provide you with a list of the evaluations that we've put in place over the last 12 months.

12:15 p.m.

Bloc

Caroline St-Hilaire Bloc Longueuil—Pierre-Boucher, QC

If I understand correctly, you systematically apply an evaluation process in all projects and programs that CIDA establishes, and a fixed amount is allocated for that purpose.

12:15 p.m.

President, Canadian International Development Agency

Robert Greenhill

We have an evaluation process to overlook our key programs. We don't actually at this point look at 100% of our programs. They're identified by size and by risk. But significant programs tend to be identified at least at two levels. You'll have key programs that are evaluated, and then the country as a whole will go through an evaluation.

So in the case of Afghanistan, that's exactly what we've done. We've had significant evaluations done of things at the Afghanistan reconstruction trust fund, of MISFA, so at the program level. We also engaged independent evaluators to give us a view of how the nation as a whole was performing. By the way, they said it was performing pretty well. Both those levels are publicly available, and we can also provide you with a more detailed examination of actually how we do our evaluation structures, using Afghanistan as an example, if you would find that helpful.

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Bloc

Caroline St-Hilaire Bloc Longueuil—Pierre-Boucher, QC

I understood that things were going well in Afghanistan in terms of evaluation, but I want to know whether the standing offers have been exhausted.

12:15 p.m.

President, Canadian International Development Agency

Robert Greenhill

You're referring to the standing offers for evaluators?

12:15 p.m.

Bloc

Caroline St-Hilaire Bloc Longueuil—Pierre-Boucher, QC

Yes.

12:15 p.m.

President, Canadian International Development Agency

Robert Greenhill

I believe we are still able to call in evaluators. Now I understand why you referred to those five companies. I'm going to come back to that question.

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Bloc

Caroline St-Hilaire Bloc Longueuil—Pierre-Boucher, QC

All right.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Go ahead, Madame.

12:15 p.m.

Bloc

Caroline St-Hilaire Bloc Longueuil—Pierre-Boucher, QC

We've heard the warmed-over version of the government's announcement, but, Mr. Greenhill, I would like to know whether CIDA has any cash flow problems as regards the implementation of programs in Africa.

12:15 p.m.

President, Canadian International Development Agency

Robert Greenhill

The short answer is no. As Len mentioned, that means that choices have to be made. The government's choice was to double up in Africa by 2008-2009. Our game plan is ready.