Evidence of meeting #4 for Foreign Affairs and International Development in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was afghanistan.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Robert Greenhill  President, Canadian International Development Agency
Leonard Edwards  Deputy Minister, Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade
Gregory Graham  Acting Vice-President, Human Resources and Corporate Services Branch (HRCS), Canadian International Development Agency
Clerk of the Committee  Mrs. Angela Crandall

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Shall the bill carry?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

On division.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

It is carried on division.

Shall I report the bill to the House?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Well, in the spirit of working together.... It's a wonderful thing, Mr. Wilfert.

Mr. Wilfert has asked us to look at his motion quickly. I know others have meetings at one o'clock.

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Liberal

Bryon Wilfert Liberal Richmond Hill, ON

Right.

The first one, Mr. Chairman, we can deal with pretty expeditiously:

That pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) the committee invites the responsible minister and appropriate senior officials from the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade, Canadian International Development Agency, and other relevant departments to discuss the current crisis in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

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Conservative

Cheryl Gallant Conservative Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke, ON

Could you repeat that, Mr. Wilfert?

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Liberal

Bryon Wilfert Liberal Richmond Hill, ON

You should have it in front of you.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

What do you need translation for?

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Liberal

Bryon Wilfert Liberal Richmond Hill, ON

I would move that.

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Conservative

Deepak Obhrai Conservative Calgary East, AB

Where is it?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

That pursuant to Standing Order 108(2)—

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Conservative

Deepak Obhrai Conservative Calgary East, AB

I have to get my propaganda ready.

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Conservative

Cheryl Gallant Conservative Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke, ON

Are we in camera?

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An hon. member

No, we aren't.

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Conservative

Deepak Obhrai Conservative Calgary East, AB

Hang in tough there.

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Liberal

Bryon Wilfert Liberal Richmond Hill, ON

It's the first motion under committee business.

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Conservative

Deepak Obhrai Conservative Calgary East, AB

I told you, I have to get my guns ready.

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Liberal

Bryon Wilfert Liberal Richmond Hill, ON

In the spirit of consensus—

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Conservative

Deepak Obhrai Conservative Calgary East, AB

What consensus? How would I consent with the Liberals? What are you talking about?

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Liberal

Bryon Wilfert Liberal Richmond Hill, ON

It's not a study; it's simply an update on the current crisis.

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Conservative

Deepak Obhrai Conservative Calgary East, AB

Mr. Chair.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Yes, Mr. Obhrai.

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Conservative

Deepak Obhrai Conservative Calgary East, AB

Thank you very much.

The government's response to this is that we do not have much difficulty in light of the situation of what is happening in Pakistan. I think it's good to look at this and see what we can do regarding the current crisis in Pakistan. However, we have some small difficulties here with reference to the ministers appearing.

What we would ask Mr. Wilfert is if he is willing to have a friendly amendment, meaning that instead of the minister we would ask the appropriate senior officials from the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade to come and do the same thing. Ultimately, the response would be the same. There would be no difference from what he is doing. All we are saying is that due to the unavailability and scheduling of the ministers and considering the fact that the situation in Pakistan is so fluid and happening so fast, we can't wait too long for the minister to come.

If he's agreeable to the friendly amendment, we could just say “senior officials”.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Mr. Obhrai, thank you.

Just looking at it from the perspective of a committee, we're looking at timelines. If this motion is to do it before Christmas—