I think it will be in the same way you debate every kind of issue you face. “Gross human rights abuses” is a generic term. It doesn't have a precise legal definition. Again we're talking about engaging in such activities as extrajudicial killing or torture or other very serious offences that 98% of offences are not going to fall under. When governments are deciding how to impose sanctions, the Magnitsky act, as it was adopted, has that kind of language in it, and it will potentially be the global Magnitsky act when the United States has a similar set of definitions.
Ultimately any government has to decide how it's going to focus its limited resources and prioritize action in various contexts. No government in the world is going to be able to consistently apply all of these standards to every government in the world simultaneously and to go after every human rights abuser. However, the idea is that Canada, which, in my view, like the United States and like a number of other western states, has substantial moral authority as a democracy and as a country that stands for freedom and for human rights, should be able to say that there are certain sets of actions that fall outside of the acceptability norm of international conduct, and that those relate to both governments and individuals.
If you are engaging in extrajudicial killing, for example—and the kinds of people I'm thinking about are people who are beginning a faction of the Lord's Resistance Army or engaging in the mass use of child soldiers. I'm not talking about some average guy on the street who gets into a fight with his neighbour and kills him by accident. That would clearly fall outside of the threshold of what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about crimes that can be identified, I believe, by international human rights organizations, by governments, by international institutions like the UN, and by regional organizations. When you see these kinds of egregious situations unfold, you look at targeting those who are most responsible for them, not targeting everybody who did anything wrong but targeting those who are most symbolic of the abuses, so that you can stand in solidarity with the victims under these kinds of circumstances and make sure that the people who take assets, which they almost always try to store in U.S. dollars, Canadian dollars, or euros abroad, cannot easily put this money in places that are safe from international scrutiny.