Evidence of meeting #29 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was report.
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1:05 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Derek Lee
Yes.
This could be a point of order, actually. I'm going to look to Ms. Hall Findlay. She's the one who moved the motion.
1:05 p.m.
Conservative
1:05 p.m.
Conservative
Chris Warkentin Conservative Peace River, AB
--or moved, but I'm wondering if I could table adjournment at this point in time, make a motion for adjournment, seeing that our time has expired.
1:05 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Derek Lee
All right.
This is procedurally a very complex meeting.
We have a motion to adjourn, which is non-debatable, and I'll put it. I'm sure we don't need a roll call vote on that.
1:05 p.m.
Conservative
Rob Anders Conservative Calgary West, AB
I'd like one, just to extend it, Mr. Chair, just to make it long and painful.
1:05 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Derek Lee
Mr. Anders is requesting a roll call vote, Mr. Clerk. This is a motion to adjourn.
1:05 p.m.
The Clerk
It is a tie.
1:05 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Derek Lee
So I'm casting a vote. In my view, committee business is continuing. I don't think the adjournment.... We're past the scheduled time for adjournment, but we're not required to adjourn at the time of adjournment; therefore, committee business continues.
I'll cast my vote against the motion to adjourn, and then I'll look to someone to propose a motion on committee business.
(Motion negatived: nays 6; yeas 5)
1:10 p.m.
Bloc
Jean-Yves Roy Bloc Haute-Gaspésie—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC
I would like Ms. Hall Findlay to explain exactly what is involved with the change she has made to her motion and that she wants us to consider.
1:10 p.m.
Conservative
1:10 p.m.
Conservative
Rob Anders Conservative Calgary West, AB
Mr. Chairman, we've already dealt with Ms. Hall Findlay's motion. It was defeated; it was negatived at the beginning of this meeting, sir. It had an opportunity to come forward at the previous meeting, and you chose not to bring it because the votes clearly indicate it would have been negatived. We are past the regular allotment of time for this committee, Mr. Chair. I think that this is, in a sense, parliamentary silly buggers.
1:10 p.m.
Liberal
Martha Hall Findlay Liberal Willowdale, ON
On a point of order, Mr. Chair, this is actually an entirely different motion.
1:10 p.m.
Conservative
1:10 p.m.
Conservative
Rob Anders Conservative Calgary West, AB
If there is to be a motion moved, then we require 48 hours' notice--none of this business of bringing it up five minutes before the end of a meeting.
1:10 p.m.
Liberal
1:10 p.m.
Liberal
Martha Hall Findlay Liberal Willowdale, ON
My point of order is that this was in fact raised appropriately under the procedural rules, and it is a materially different motion to address my colleague's concerns. It is a materially different motion.
1:10 p.m.
Conservative
Rob Anders Conservative Calgary West, AB
On a point of order, if it is a materially new motion, Mr. Chair, I want 48 hours' notice. She's admitted here in committee that it's a materially new motion.
1:10 p.m.
Liberal
Martha Hall Findlay Liberal Willowdale, ON
But it is in response to a motion that we passed last week.
1:10 p.m.
Conservative
Rob Anders Conservative Calgary West, AB
We need 48 hours of notice. She can bring this forward on Thursday.
Thank you very much.
1:10 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Derek Lee
Order.
The points you're making and the point of order could be made in debate on whatever you're going to propose. You have a new motion now that you would propose for committee business, so if you could move that, we could get to that.
1:10 p.m.
Liberal
Martha Hall Findlay Liberal Willowdale, ON
I will do that. I'll read it out in its entirety. Again, this is pursuant to the motion that was passed at the last meeting to which we did not get a sufficient response. It is materially different from the one we addressed earlier, because two significant portions have been completely removed. The first portion has been changed.
I will read the new motion:
That Public Works and Government Services Canada, or such other department of the Government of Canada as is appropriate, provide to the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates by 11 a.m. on June 18, 2009, the most recent Central Financial Management Reporting System data for 2008-09 fiscal year expenditures and lapses by department.