Mr. Holder, I appreciate that. He's not being rude to the witness.
The witnesses do know that they are here to give answers. If the member does not feel that their answers are relevant, the member is at liberty to interject and stop. That's their right.
So we will not have these points of order regarding the member's right to pose questions.
You may continue, Mr. Martin. I will let you go for a few more minutes.