Evidence of meeting #34 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was sauvé.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Gilles Varin  As an Individual
Norman Glouberman  As an Individual
Julia Gersovitz  As an Individual

10:05 a.m.

Bloc

Diane Bourgeois Bloc Terrebonne—Blainville, QC

Have you done business with a lobbyist or another person who might have put pressure on PWGSC to obtain a contract? I'm putting the same question to Ms. Gersovitz or Mr. Glouberman.

10:05 a.m.

As an Individual

Julia Gersovitz

Absolutely not.

10:05 a.m.

As an Individual

10:05 a.m.

Bloc

Diane Bourgeois Bloc Terrebonne—Blainville, QC

Never, you either.

Do you know Minister Paradis?

10:05 a.m.

As an Individual

Julia Gersovitz

Not until I went to the cocktail party. He walked around the room and he shook everybody's hands, so I met him at that time.

10:05 a.m.

Bloc

Diane Bourgeois Bloc Terrebonne—Blainville, QC

What about you, Mr. Glouberman?

10:05 a.m.

As an Individual

Norman Glouberman

It's the same for me.

10:05 a.m.

Bloc

Diane Bourgeois Bloc Terrebonne—Blainville, QC

Were you close to Mr. Fortier?

10:05 a.m.

As an Individual

Julia Gersovitz

I've never met Mr. Fortier.

10:05 a.m.

As an Individual

Norman Glouberman

I've never met Mr. Fortier.

10:05 a.m.

Bloc

Diane Bourgeois Bloc Terrebonne—Blainville, QC

That's fine. I'll now hand over to my colleague.

10:05 a.m.

Bloc

Marc Lemay Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

I'd like to know whether any pressure was put on you not to come and testify before this committee.

10:05 a.m.

As an Individual

Norman Glouberman

No. There was no pressure at all to come or not to come.

10:05 a.m.

Bloc

Marc Lemay Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

Last week, you were to come and testify and it appears that you asked to do it in camera, but we did not grant that request—

10:05 a.m.

Conservative

Chris Warkentin Conservative Peace River, AB

Point of order, Mr. Chair.

10:05 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Yes, Mr. Warkentin.

10:05 a.m.

Conservative

Chris Warkentin Conservative Peace River, AB

I don't know that the member opposite is aware, but most of our planning sessions for this committee have been done in camera, and therefore, I don't believe there is any public information in regard to our planning for this committee.

10:05 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

I think that is a legitimate point of order.

10:05 a.m.

Bloc

Marc Lemay Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

I'm going to withdraw my question, Mr. Chairman.

You are professional architects. Do you currently have a lot of contracts with the federal government?

10:05 a.m.

As an Individual

Norman Glouberman

The primary contract we have.... We are from two separate offices. I represent Le Groupe Arcop, and Julia is with Fournier, Gersovitz, Moss. We have one joint venture contract right now for the West Block.

In our office, we have two very minor contracts with National Defence Canada, not with Public Works.

10:05 a.m.

Bloc

Marc Lemay Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

For how many years have you had the West Block renovation contract?

10:05 a.m.

As an Individual

Julia Gersovitz

Since 1995.

10:05 a.m.

Bloc

Marc Lemay Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

So since 1995.

In fact, if I understand correctly, you, as architects, are responsible for the renovation of the entire West Block.

10:05 a.m.

As an Individual

Julia Gersovitz

That's correct.

10:05 a.m.

Bloc

Marc Lemay Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

Do you have subcontracts? Do you make any recommendations in that respect for these renovations?