Evidence of meeting #38 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was varin.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Paul Sauvé  President, LM Sauvé

10:25 a.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

Did you meet with Mr. Garneau?

10:25 a.m.

President, LM Sauvé

Paul Sauvé

No, I did not, sir.

10:25 a.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

Who else in the Liberal Party did you meet with? Have you made donations to the Liberal Party?

10:25 a.m.

President, LM Sauvé

Paul Sauvé

I might have made donations to the Liberal Party over the years, but Monsieur Coderre is the only MP that I have met in the last many years.

10:25 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Monsieur Martin has a point of order.

10:25 a.m.

NDP

Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

In this country you don't have to tell anybody who you made political donations to or what political party. I think it's offensive to put somebody on the spot.

You don't browbeat them for their political affiliations. I think it's a wrong line of questioning.

10:30 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

That is probably not a point of order, Mr. Martin.

Mr. Calandra has 20 seconds left.

10:30 a.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

Let me sum it up this way, Mr. Sauvé. From everything that you presented today and all these inconsistencies in your testimony, I can say this. I'm glad you're not coming here as a member of Parliament because I expect, Mr. Sauvé, a higher level--

10:30 a.m.

Liberal

Denis Coderre Liberal Bourassa, QC

A point of order.

10:30 a.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

--from the people who come here. I don't expect people to sink to trying to grease wheels to make their way--

10:30 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Mr. Calandra, Mr. Calandra.

10:30 a.m.

Liberal

Denis Coderre Liberal Bourassa, QC

I find it totally unacceptable that Mr. Calandra and the Conservatives are trying to tarnish the reputation of a witness who, from what I know, has taken an oath. He is here in good faith and is answering questions. People may not agree—and I know that the truth hurts because you are up to your neck in this—but sullying other people's reputation serves no purpose.

10:30 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Thank you, Mr. Calandra.

Thank you, Mr. Coderre.

Mr. Calandra, it's my responsibility to maintain order in this committee. This is the second meeting in a row where you've made commentary that is out of order. I'm so ruling. I will not recognize you further.

10:30 a.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

A point of order.

10:30 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

I will not recognize the point of order.

I have Mr. Regan.

10:30 a.m.

Liberal

Geoff Regan Liberal Halifax West, NS

Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman--

10:30 a.m.

Conservative

Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

A point of order. A point of order.

10:30 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

I am not recognizing the point of order.

Mr. Regan.

10:30 a.m.

Liberal

Geoff Regan Liberal Halifax West, NS

Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Sauvé, you mentioned Mr. Claude Sarrazin, who is on the board of directors of LM Sauvé. Is that the same Claude Sarrazin who is the president of SIRCO Investigation and Protection?

10:30 a.m.

President, LM Sauvé

Paul Sauvé

Yes, it is, sir.

10:30 a.m.

Liberal

Geoff Regan Liberal Halifax West, NS

Is he also associated with a company called Formica?

10:30 a.m.

President, LM Sauvé

Paul Sauvé

I wouldn't know.

10:30 a.m.

Liberal

Geoff Regan Liberal Halifax West, NS

No?

10:30 a.m.

President, LM Sauvé

10:30 a.m.

Liberal

Geoff Regan Liberal Halifax West, NS

It's a different person.