Both the U.K. and Australia and to an extent France and other European countries.... There are 75 countries with P3 programs. I think there are lessons to be learned from all of them, both good and bad. We've learned about value-for-money analysis. We've learned about how to deal with operating and maintenance through the life cycle of these kinds of things.
We've also learned other lessons. You have to make sure that you keep it as a tool in a tool box and you don't say that P3s are the solution to everything. They're not the solution for everything. It's like any tool: if you try to apply a hammer to the wrong kind of situation, you'll get the wrong result. There's nothing wrong with the hammer; you just didn't use it in the right circumstances.
I think the U.K. is going through that. I think they've learned that they've done it for some projects that were too small, frankly. So where it works and where it doesn't work...those are some of the things that we can certainly learn. In Australia, it's very much at the state level, in the State of Victoria and the State of New South Wales, so Partnerships Victoria is a place to learn from.
I think the experience the U.K. is going through in their initiative, where I think they're realizing that they have probably gone too far in the PFI, is another good lesson for Canada as well.